"Which To Believe Completely?" by benchen71
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"Which To Believe Completely?" by benchen71
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benchen71's Metas on a Tuesday (MOAT)
Can you storm the castle by getting across the MOAT? So yes: this grid is going to be tricky. And yes: the meta might be on the difficult side, too. But persevere! I've provided a few pointers here and there, so hopefully you will find your way to the answer which is a four word phrase that means "completely".
The easiest way to submit is on Crosshare (and you get instant feedback and unlimited attempts!) But you can also PM me with your submission. Either way, I'll compile a list of those who successfully solve the meta.
Which To Believe Completely? - Online Form
Which To Believe Completely? - PUZ
Which To Believe Completely? - PDF
Which To Believe Completely? - spreadsheet
Nudges are here.
The solution is here.
benchen71's Metas on a Tuesday (MOAT)
Can you storm the castle by getting across the MOAT? So yes: this grid is going to be tricky. And yes: the meta might be on the difficult side, too. But persevere! I've provided a few pointers here and there, so hopefully you will find your way to the answer which is a four word phrase that means "completely".
The easiest way to submit is on Crosshare (and you get instant feedback and unlimited attempts!) But you can also PM me with your submission. Either way, I'll compile a list of those who successfully solve the meta.
Which To Believe Completely? - Online Form
Which To Believe Completely? - PUZ
Which To Believe Completely? - PDF
Which To Believe Completely? - spreadsheet
Nudges are here.
The solution is here.
Last edited by benchen71 on Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:20 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Moat crossed!
I don't have anything clever to say, but if I did, it would go here.
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Moat crossed, castle stormed, task completed. Thanks Ben!
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Moat crossed!! Thanks, Ben! That was tricky but fun!!
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Appears I have fallen into the water of the moat and cannot get out. SO far all of the good ideas I have had have only been good until I try to solve the puzzle with them.
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NUDGES!I am always willing to give nudges IF ASKED; metas should be about fun, not frustration. PM me what you have done so far, because often you are closer than you think, and I will try to help you move along.
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Moat crossed with a nudge to revisit something I had tried. Found a way to make it work but not sure why it makes sense. Waiting for the reveal.
My avatar proves that it is sometimes better to be lucky than good!
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Because life is too short for staring at abstruse metas, I'm going to release the nudges early. But first, here's who made it to the answer so far:
markhr
rjy
Hector
hoover
boharr
Meg
Cindy Weatherman
I K Snamhcok
MatthewL
Ergcat
heidi
THC
KayW
Pair O Ducks
That's 14 to get us started. Now let's see if nudges help get things moving...
markhr
rjy
Hector
hoover
boharr
Meg
Cindy Weatherman
I K Snamhcok
MatthewL
Ergcat
heidi
THC
KayW
Pair O Ducks
That's 14 to get us started. Now let's see if nudges help get things moving...
Check out "The MOAT Mini Pack of Marching Bands" here. US$5 gets you 7 Marching Bands which, hard enough on their own, now contain metas too. And once again there's a mega-meta! 

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Nudges, in order of increasing blatancy:
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3.
4.
Check out "The MOAT Mini Pack of Marching Bands" here. US$5 gets you 7 Marching Bands which, hard enough on their own, now contain metas too. And once again there's a mega-meta! 

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I stormed that castle in record time! I loved this mechanism… didn’t need the nudges. If you can get through the grid, you can get the meta. Give it some thought before reading the nudges… all you need to know is hinted at very well!
The other Wendy. 

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You encouraged me to give the puzzle one more shot before looking at the nudges, and finally I found what I had been searching for earlier. Ben definitely provided several useful hints, including one that I'd missed.HeadinHome wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:21 pm I stormed that castle in record time! I loved this mechanism… didn’t need the nudges. If you can get through the grid, you can get the meta. Give it some thought before reading the nudges… all you need to know is hinted at very well!
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Ugh! I looked where I needed to look and still didn’t see it until nudged to do so again.
Agree with @HeadinHome - altho I’m more HeadinHands at the moment
Nice one, Ben!
Moat crossed, but only after nudge 3 slashed through the rope of the trebuchet I was sitting in…
Agree with @HeadinHome - altho I’m more HeadinHands at the moment

Nice one, Ben!
Moat crossed, but only after nudge 3 slashed through the rope of the trebuchet I was sitting in…
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Meta completed and the moat has been crossed (w/nudges). Thanks, Ben
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I'm about to retire for the night, but here's a solver update for you:
CPJohnson
lbray53
imontoo
HeadinHome
SeamusOL
SirMrGuy
Mr Tex
ReB
DrTom
whimsy
Darrell
ajk
Berto
Spid4567
Carolyn
Tyrpmom
PuzNewbie
Dow Jones
BarbaraK
That brings us to 33.
CPJohnson
lbray53
imontoo
HeadinHome
SeamusOL
SirMrGuy
Mr Tex
ReB
DrTom
whimsy
Darrell
ajk
Berto
Spid4567
Carolyn
Tyrpmom
PuzNewbie
Dow Jones
BarbaraK
That brings us to 33.
Check out "The MOAT Mini Pack of Marching Bands" here. US$5 gets you 7 Marching Bands which, hard enough on their own, now contain metas too. And once again there's a mega-meta! 
