"Past and Present" - December 24, 2020
- Thurman8er
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Ashore!
Go do the WaPo Sunday meta by Evan Birholz if you haven't already. Absolutely amazing!
Go do the WaPo Sunday meta by Evan Birholz if you haven't already. Absolutely amazing!
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- Bob cruise director
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Our final count for this week is 7 on the ship and 193 on the shore.
Making it to the shore this afternoon are
WSJosh
Vincent
Matthew M
Scott M
rexthree
Joedbee
the Thurman8er
Hidden in 3D
and Erik Thor
Good luck to all winning the mug - long odds this week
Happy New Year - remember the contest comes out on WEDNESDAY at 4 pm.
Making it to the shore this afternoon are
WSJosh
Vincent
Matthew M
Scott M
rexthree
Joedbee
the Thurman8er
Hidden in 3D
and Erik Thor
Good luck to all winning the mug - long odds this week
Happy New Year - remember the contest comes out on WEDNESDAY at 4 pm.
Bob Stevens
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- cbarbee002
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Thinking this applies to several muggles. Two out of three for me ain't bad.
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Ashore...bullied my way to the 12-letter word first, based solely on noticing things that seemed a tad too coincidental, couldn't quite believe I was correct, and then saw the meta in hindsight after staring at my answer word.
So it's a win, but I still wish I'd have noticed the actual mechanism first (i.e. means to an end rather than vice versa).
So it's a win, but I still wish I'd have noticed the actual mechanism first (i.e. means to an end rather than vice versa).
- cpelster
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Completed the grid on Thurs. Saw a few pathways. Finally got around to solving the meta today. Happy New Year!
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India-edMajordomoTom wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:58 pmyou slaw me.
- Colin
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I had same thing back in the summer with my bathroom faucets. In the end, it was easier to disconnect the plumbing (h/c and waste), lift out the sink (with faucets) after cutting the silicone seal and then saw through the nuts on the workbench. Saved a few bandaids on my head too!Bob cruise director wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:12 pm A belated Sunday report as I was attempting to replace my daughter's kitchen sink faucet - unsuccessful as that nut that holds it on was rusted forever and needs someone with a sawsall to cut the faucet off.
One world. One planet. One future.
- Joe Ross
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PLATELET 𝗱𝗼𝗻𝗼𝗿𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗮𝗿𝗲.
𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝘀 ENORMOUS 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗮𝗿𝗲:
𝟰𝟬% 𝗽𝗲𝗱𝗶𝗮𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗰,
𝟯𝟬% 𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗵, 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗰,
𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗿 & 𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘂𝗺𝗮. 𝗣𝗟𝗘𝗔𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗛𝗔𝗥𝗘!
PLATELET 𝗱𝗼𝗻𝗼𝗿𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗮𝗿𝗲.
𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝘀 ENORMOUS 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗮𝗿𝗲:
𝟰𝟬% 𝗽𝗲𝗱𝗶𝗮𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗰,
𝟯𝟬% 𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗵, 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗰,
𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗿 & 𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘂𝗺𝗮. 𝗣𝗟𝗘𝗔𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗛𝗔𝗥𝗘!
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FRANKINCENSE
Whole blood, platelets, or plasma: Donate 4 in 2024
PLATELET 𝗱𝗼𝗻𝗼𝗿𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗮𝗿𝗲.
𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝘀 ENORMOUS 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗮𝗿𝗲:
𝟰𝟬% 𝗽𝗲𝗱𝗶𝗮𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗰,
𝟯𝟬% 𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗵, 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗰,
𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗿 & 𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘂𝗺𝗮. 𝗣𝗟𝗘𝗔𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗛𝗔𝗥𝗘!
PLATELET 𝗱𝗼𝗻𝗼𝗿𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗮𝗿𝗲.
𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝘀 ENORMOUS 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗮𝗿𝗲:
𝟰𝟬% 𝗽𝗲𝗱𝗶𝗮𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗰,
𝟯𝟬% 𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗵, 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗰,
𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗿 & 𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘂𝗺𝗮. 𝗣𝗟𝗘𝗔𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗛𝗔𝗥𝗘!
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Just curious -- are there others who wasted time looking for answers beneath the ELDER and LIME trees?
- LadyBird
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What does the "Past and" part of the title have to do with anything--that was a major obstacle to my solving?
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- DrTom
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Well I don't golf so 1.5 out of three (I know some things, not enough to solve MGWCC but some)cbarbee002 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:28 pm Thinking this applies to several muggles. Two out of three for me ain't bad.
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Perhaps I can drink enough bourbon to bring it up to 2?
NUDGES!I am always willing to give nudges where needed; metas should be about fun, not frustration. Send me what you have done so far because often you are closer than you think!
- yourpalsal
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I was stuck looking under the ELDER tree, at AVON, which was the only clue with “past” in it, as well as the 6 words with “present” in the clue. Those included that FOR TOY intersection that seemed like 40. Just another Watership Down full of rabbit holes...
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SPOILER ALERT -- THIS COMMENT CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR THE NEVILLE FOGARTY 12/24/20 "HOME ALONE" PUZZLE --
As previously noted, this WSJ puzzle uses a mechanism fairly common this time of year, including in the 12/24 Neville Fogarty "Home Alone," which I had just solved the same day. But one integral part of the answer to the Fogarty puzzle involves a "LIME" tree, and by golly there is a LIME tree in the WSJ also! It doesn't enter into the solution, but as PJM notes above, it's there. (I wasn't bothered by the ELDER, as it s a Down, not an Across.) And that LIME signals a LEAD anchor in the bottom right corner, which was why I was "plumb" exhausted swimming to shore!
As previously noted, this WSJ puzzle uses a mechanism fairly common this time of year, including in the 12/24 Neville Fogarty "Home Alone," which I had just solved the same day. But one integral part of the answer to the Fogarty puzzle involves a "LIME" tree, and by golly there is a LIME tree in the WSJ also! It doesn't enter into the solution, but as PJM notes above, it's there. (I wasn't bothered by the ELDER, as it s a Down, not an Across.) And that LIME signals a LEAD anchor in the bottom right corner, which was why I was "plumb" exhausted swimming to shore!
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Same here. The answer occurred to me when I realized one of the famous presents from the past had twelve letters.Franklin.Bluth wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:32 pm Ashore...bullied my way to the 12-letter word first, based solely on noticing things that seemed a tad too coincidental, couldn't quite believe I was correct, and then saw the meta in hindsight after staring at my answer word.
So it's a win, but I still wish I'd have noticed the actual mechanism first (i.e. means to an end rather than vice versa).
“I wonder if that’s hidden in the puzzle somewhere.”
It was.
I found nine of the twelve letters before I noticed the mechanism.
It felt almost like cheating—but not enough to keep me from submitting my entry.
- MikeM000
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Not a lot of time, but I was wondering for a minute how to get a 12-letter word (and not phrase) out of, say, AVON COSMETIC.
To add to it, I think that day's NYT had HEATH in a similar down-entry position that was one of the last words I had filled in and was fresh in my mind; I fruitlessly searched for it in my just-completed WSJ grid.
- Bob cruise director
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I watched a couple of videos and laughed. First video the water shutoffs actually worked which they never do. And the nut twisted off by hand. HAColin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:30 pmI had same thing back in the summer with my bathroom faucets. In the end, it was easier to disconnect the plumbing (h/c and waste), lift out the sink (with faucets) after cutting the silicone seal and then saw through the nuts on the workbench. Saved a few bandaids on my head too!Bob cruise director wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:12 pm A belated Sunday report as I was attempting to replace my daughter's kitchen sink faucet - unsuccessful as that nut that holds it on was rusted forever and needs someone with a sawsall to cut the faucet off.
Second The guy drilled out the nut from below.
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