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Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:44 pm
by subtly
Got it! Awaiting confirmation, but sure. My first week 5 solve without a nudge -- so... Thanks to those of you who have graciously given me nudges in past weeks, teaching me how to look and think and find...

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Now confirmed.

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 8:20 am
by HeadinHome
I appear to be where many of the rest of you are: first step came so easily, I thought maybe it was mis-categorized as a week 5. But then... WHAT NEXT??

UPDATE:
WOW spent way too much time on a side trail because of Gaffney’s dastardly crafty ways. My initial step was right on, and my method for getting the next thing wasn’t too far off, but I fell into a trap Gaffney set I think on purpose (noticed something but couldn’t get it to fit into my misguided assumption). Once I got out of that snare (thanks to a helper reviewing my tactics and suggesting I look more broadly at something), it was a fun and quick wrap up. I shoulda known better, with my schoolin’. Duh.

Beam me up!

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 2:13 pm
by minimuggle
Very happy to have gotten to the first step :) But I have a feeling I"ll be making quite a dent in the couch. Not yet sure where to go next but I'll enjoy the journey.

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 3:17 pm
by ChrisKochmanski
Beam me up!

I needed a nudge (read: group solve!) to get me out of some of my usual mucky muck and onto the inklings that might actually help to get me to the first step. From there, I was able to move fairly independently (just one more slight nudge) and methodically (it took about 20 minutes) to make my way to the finish.

Very cool puzzle!

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 3:27 pm
by Hector
I have an answer that makes sense, but the the mechanism I use to get the last bit does not inspire confidence. It might at least count as an appealable alternate...

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 3:58 pm
by ky-mike
Hector wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 3:27 pm I have an answer that makes sense, but the the mechanism I use to get the last bit does not inspire confidence. It might at least count as an appealable alternate...
The meta answer makes perfect sense. Keep working on it.

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 4:10 pm
by Hector
ky-mike wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 3:58 pm
Hector wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 3:27 pm I have an answer that makes sense...
The meta answer makes perfect sense. Keep working on it.
?

My answer does make perfect sense; that's not the concern. I'd rather risk being wrong than risk wasting a few extra days on a puzzle I've already solved. So I've submitted! Watch out; streak of 2 or so is on the line here.

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 4:18 pm
by RPardoe
Solved (with a helpful nudge).
No doubt at all about the mechanism or the answer.

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 5:17 pm
by ky-mike
Hector wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 4:10 pm
ky-mike wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 3:58 pm
Hector wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 3:27 pm I have an answer that makes sense...
The meta answer makes perfect sense. Keep working on it.
?

My answer does make perfect sense; that's not the concern. I'd rather risk being wrong than risk wasting a few extra days on a puzzle I've already solved. So I've submitted! Watch out; streak of 2 or so is on the line here.
OK. Mechanism makes sense as well. Looks like another streak will start next week.

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 8:01 pm
by Cinny
Solved! Feels good after breaking my streak last week.

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 9:50 pm
by KayW
ky-mike wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 5:17 pm
Hector wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 4:10 pm
ky-mike wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 3:58 pm
The meta answer makes perfect sense. Keep working on it.
?

My answer does make perfect sense; that's not the concern. I'd rather risk being wrong than risk wasting a few extra days on a puzzle I've already solved. So I've submitted! Watch out; streak of 2 or so is on the line here.
OK. Mechanism makes sense as well. Looks like another streak will start next week.
Wow. That's VERY interesting. Maybe @Hector should plead his case to Matt? Matt's been known to accept alternate answers. In any case, I hope you'll share the gory details post-deadline.

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 11:13 am
by Hector
I did include the explanation in my comments, and I don't mind at all that Matt didn't accept it. After all, I was hesitant because didn't seem to me as definite as a normal Gaffney mechanism. I'll post it on Tuesday, though!

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 2:19 pm
by cisalope
I'm pretty sure I see the first step, and have an idea of what the next step is, but am stuck. Would someone be willing to hear me out and let me know whether I am on the right track?

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 3:41 pm
by BrennerTJ
Made it to the finish line with expert guidance - without that would still be out in the fields chasing shiny objects. Very excellent.

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 3:50 pm
by Dannyvee
Beamed up with nudge
(☑️Group solve)
Such a slog but quite satisfying in the end.

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 4:35 pm
by MamaE
I may have the first step.....possibly? Anyone willing to confer?

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 5:12 pm
by minimuggle
This was a fantastic Meta. I am off the couch with a nudge that was very much appreciated. :D

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 5:55 pm
by ajk
Beam me up, thanks to a kindly nudge!

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 6:03 pm
by Duane Suarez
Can someone give me a slight nudge in the right direction?
Its only my 3rd week and I am lost.

Duane

Re: #674 - "Please Form Two Lines"

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 7:46 pm
by ellgee
I would also really appreciate a nudge. I have a weekend's worth of scribbled notes but nothing that feels like the sure first step that others seem to have found.

Update: solved with a kind nudge that got me started down the right track. Whew!