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"2020 Foresight"

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Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:07 pm
by markhr
OTC, no nudge needed.
Well done, Chris.

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:53 am
by Dow Jones
What happened to Nudge #1 ??

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:47 am
by cbarbee002
Nudge Wednesday!

5A and 10A relate to the four across theme answers.

Take the results of Nudge 1 and consider the clue for 41A - - any extraneous information there?

Will post another nudge later today.

Currently Off the Couch:

Hector
Meg
RPardoe
boharr
oldjudge
Chris Kochmanski
Dannyvee
dudeski
Tom Mueller
Markhr

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:39 am
by Cindy
solved

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:07 pm
by Wendy Walker
The two nudges have not helped me get from Step 1 to Step 2.

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:54 pm
by Seadub
Off the couch, with nudges. That was a great meta. Last step was hardest for me.

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:36 pm
by lbray53
I am with Wendy.

Nothing is coming into focus.

My picture isn't even helping.

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:05 pm
by cbarbee002
Ok, a couple more Wednesday nudges:

Nudges 1 and 2 were meant to get you to google the Snellen eye chart, and notice that the first/last letters of the theme entries (DEFPOTEC) is the 20/20 line in the chart. As prompted in the title and the title prompt, " . . . . how things will look after 2020", combined with the answer needing to be a seven-letter word, should push you to another nearby line.

By now you are on the 20/25 line, and the letters make no sense. What mechanism might you use to convert those letters into something useful?

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:26 pm
by hcbirker
Halfway there and now I’m stuck.

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:32 pm
by Schmeel
I got it right after I saw the second round of spoilers. I was on the right track, I just missed a step!
Great puzzle!

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:36 pm
by Bob cruise director
cbarbee002 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:05 pm Ok, a couple more Wednesday nudges:

Nudges 1 and 2 were meant to get you to google the Snellen eye chart, and notice that the first/last letters of the theme entries (DEFPOTEC) is the 20/20 line in the chart. As prompted in the title and the title prompt, " . . . . how things will look after 2020", combined with the answer needing to be a seven-letter word, should push you to another nearby line.

By now you are on the 20/25 line, and the letters make no sense. What mechanism might you use to convert those letters into something useful?


I meant to ask you last night "you don't look old enough to remember 51 across"

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:41 pm
by cbarbee002
Bob cruise director wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:36 pm
cbarbee002 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:05 pm Ok, a couple more Wednesday nudges:

Nudges 1 and 2 were meant to get you to google the Snellen eye chart, and notice that the first/last letters of the theme entries (DEFPOTEC) is the 20/20 line in the chart. As prompted in the title and the title prompt, " . . . . how things will look after 2020", combined with the answer needing to be a seven-letter word, should push you to another nearby line.

By now you are on the 20/25 line, and the letters make no sense. What mechanism might you use to convert those letters into something useful?


I meant to ask you last night "you don't look old enough to remember 51 across"


Ahh, the marvels of webcams! I have to say tho that my fave was "Combat" with Sgt. Saunders!

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:42 pm
by Joe Ross
Bob cruise director wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:36 pm I meant to ask you last night "you don't look old enough to remember 51 across"
Even I am old enough to remember Rat Patrol! (Although I may look older than youthful Chris.)

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:53 pm
by KayW
:couch_and_lamp: Off the couch. Well, pushed off, anyway - it took all 4 nudges, Fabulous construction and meta. Thanks, Chris!

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:10 pm
by Laura M
Nudged off the couch, finally. Very clever meta!

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:12 pm
by KayW
Joe Ross wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:42 pm
Bob cruise director wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:36 pm I meant to ask you last night "you don't look old enough to remember 51 across"
Even I am old enough to remember Rat Patrol! (Although I may look older than youthful Chris.)
I am certainly old enough, but I don't remember ever even hearing of this show. I had to google it. At the risk of being non-PC, that may be a gender thing. OTOH you can ask me anything about The Monkees or Batman, both of which happened to be on the air the same years (66-68). Or Gilligan's Island. Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale...

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:23 pm
by Bob cruise director
Spoiler 2 did not help me as I was onto that but am doing a random walk with a white cane.

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:24 pm
by lbray53
Finally off the couch. I needed every spoiler but it was still fun.

The combination of 5A, 26D and 27D sent me on a wild hare chase. I was absolutely sure I was on the right path. So many things seemed to point me in that direction. More after the contest is over if anyone is interested.

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:24 pm
by Joe Ross
I was laying in provisions for a long weekend, then a friend's recommendation that I have my eyes examined allowed me to realize the key mechanism overlooked. Well... Eagerly sought, but missed. :nerd:

Image

A solid Week 4, possibly a 5 on the Gaffney scale, IMH&HO. Great work, Chris! Thank you for the puzzle.

Re: "2020 Foresight"

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:40 pm
by Dave C
It took me all four nudges also. Nicely constructed.
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