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"Just Beyond the Surface" - September 2020
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:43 pm
by Hector
The meta for this puzzle is a hit song from the '70s.
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface"
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:51 pm
by Hector
What a tough grid. Liberal reliance on google here. Sweet meta, though.
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface"
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:13 pm
by Leslie
Fun meta, great song. Grid was a slog. I only got about half of it filled out before I finally gave up and resorted to google.
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface"
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:17 pm
by spotter
I found the grid easier than I usually do with these, but haven't found the meta yet! To each their own.
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface"
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:16 pm
by Cindy
Tough grid. Nice meta!
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface"
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:32 pm
by TMart
This was a great one. Agree, tough grid.
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface"
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:43 pm
by hcbirker
On the board! Fun one! Agree the grid was tough without Google.
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface"
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:00 pm
by Dplass
Can't even finish the grid... maybe next month.
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface" - September 2020
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:22 pm
by oldjudge
From my very limited experience it seems like Peter’s grids are really a lot of fun, and reflect what he has done recently. I enjoyed the grid and the song is one of my favorites.
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface" - September 2020
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:24 pm
by RPardoe
Nothing, nothing, nothing, then noticed something and the pieces slowly came together. AHA!
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface" - September 2020
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:05 pm
by Meg
That grid was haaaaaard. Meta just fine!
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface" - September 2020
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:11 pm
by C=64
Also had some inky write-overs in the grid. Fun meta mechanism.
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface" - September 2020
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:23 pm
by BarbaraK
I enjoyed the challenge of Pete's grid, as I usually do. Started with a bunch of stuff I had no idea about, but slowly but surely managed to get a word here and there and ended up with only 3 blank squares that I had to google.
Clever meta. Need to take another crack at the mega one of these days.
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface" - September 2020
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:31 pm
by Hector
How come no one is talking about the glaring error in 27D?
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface" - September 2020
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:01 pm
by RPardoe
Hector wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:31 pm
How come no one is talking about the glaring error in 27D?
Because the award was given in 1964 for 1963 work?
So does the year describe the actual year the award was received?
Or the award for accomplishments in the listed year?
I didn't consider it an error at all as I used the second definition in my mind as the same often happens for other awards (eg Academy Awards). The award is presented in the calendar year after the work, but is generally referenced by the year when the work is performed.
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface" - September 2020
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:07 pm
by Hector
Well I suppose you have a point, there.
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface" - September 2020
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:13 pm
by BarbaraK
RPardoe wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:01 pm
Because the award was given in 1964 for 1963 work?
So does the year describe the actual year the award was received?
Or the award for accomplishments in the listed year?
I didn't consider it an error at all as I used the second definition in my mind as the same often happens for other awards (eg Academy Awards). The award is presented in the calendar year after the work, but is generally referenced by the year when the work is performed.
This is why, whenever there’s an award year in a clue, if I google, I check both years.
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface" - September 2020
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:08 pm
by ChrisKochmanski
I was thinking I was done with puzzling for the day -- "Now to some reading" -- when I suddenly realized, "It's the first Tuesday of the month -- MULLER MONTHLY MUSIC META !!!! !!!!" ("The Guest List" could wait.)
Tough grid; slogged through almost all of it, needing to google just a bit. Then did the usual staring, until noticing something, and ... there it was!
Good one!
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface" - September 2020
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:55 pm
by damefox
Got it. Now it's in my head.
Definitely one of those "stare and wait for a miracle" puzzles, as others have remarked as well.
Re: "Just Beyond the Surface" - September 2020
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:52 pm
by Anita
We noticed something interesting, but aren't sure what comes next. And wow, that was a tough grid!