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Re: MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:15 am
by lbray53
Cat is free. After two hasty submissions I finally settled down and tried the mechanism that I considered first but thought unlikely. What was I thinking? Maybe overthinking. Or underestimating the guile of our good doctor.

Re: MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:37 am
by ajk
DrTom wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:55 pmSit back, look through the grid for things that make you ask, "why would he do that"
Followed instructions, and hey presto it worked. :lol:
Very nicely done. My only complaint is that mid-way through I was hoping it wouldn't turn out to be this mechanism, so that I could use it myself. :lol: :lol:

Re: MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:11 am
by benchen71
Hoping to wake up to nudges! This puzzle had been resisting all of my meta-solving powers.

Re: MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:26 am
by DrTom
NUDGES:

Puzzle creators LOVE to be topical and if their puzzle will be published on a day, or on a day before, an “event” they like to include it.

If you look through the grid, aren’t there a lot of symmetric words that begin with the same two letters?

The “dead center” clue/answer is soooo often important.

If you combine Nudge 2 and Nudge 3 does that give you a clue to any numbers?

If a puzzle creator gives you numbers, what do you do with them?

Re: MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:28 am
by DrTom
benchen71 wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:11 am Hoping to wake up to nudges! This puzzle had been resisting all of my meta-solving powers.
Sorry Ben, I was on US time and went to bed at a reasonable hour last night. Hope they help!

Re: MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:39 am
by DrTom
Solver board update:
23 hcbirker
24 lbray53
25 DIS
26 markhr
27 ajk
28 Danny K Bernstein
29 SJMcK

Hmmm, only 7 more people, this is either a lot harder than I thought or the WSJ, which I have yet to look at, is a bear.

Re: MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:55 pm
by DrTom
Five more join the ranks of "it may not be as easy as they say but I got there!"

30 Mr Tex
31 hoover
32 Johnny Luau
33 JM
34 Jaclyn

Re: MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:10 am
by benchen71
DrTom wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:28 am
benchen71 wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:11 am Hoping to wake up to nudges! This puzzle had been resisting all of my meta-solving powers.
Sorry Ben, I was on US time and went to bed at a reasonable hour last night. Hope they help!
This was perfect! I left my message before going to sleep, and the nudges were waiting for me when I awoke this morning. The first couple of nudges set me on the correct path, and I think the cat is now out of the bag! :D

Re: MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:45 pm
by DrTom
EXTRA STRONG NUDGE:

You have probably found a common beginning IN six places. But if we used a different preposition and it was instead TO six places???

Re: MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:28 pm
by CPJohnson
Finally got it with a nudge from @DrTom himself! Thanks! Great puzzle and concept!

Re: MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:18 pm
by Cinny
Needed a nudge, but very clever. Thanks, Dr. Tom.

Re: MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:39 am
by DrTom
Well, all the nudges finally helped a little:

35 Tom Wilson
36 benchen71
37 Dave C
38 omnilynx
39 CPJohnson
40 mwoychick
41 Cindy Heisler

I'm glad that it is getting some play and that people are liking it, you always want to see your "children" do well.

Re: MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:47 pm
by Cap'n Rick
Nice one, @DrTom! I needed the nudges, but it all came together nicely in the end.

Re: MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:36 pm
by Jeremy Smith
I needed the nudges to complete the final step. Well, actually I didn't--I suspected what the metanism was but was too lazy to do it! :lol: :lol:
Thanks, DrT!

Re: MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:56 pm
by DrTom
Slowing to a trickle...but still solving!

42 Laura M
43 Capn Rick
44 Jeremy Smith

Re: MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:49 am
by DrTom
And in under the wire:

45 Ergcat
46 Sharkicicles

Re: MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:56 am
by DrTom
The REVEAL

Well gosh I thought that this one would be so easy, particularly for those of you that are math inclined. My plan, since this would come out the day before PI Day, was that you would look at the graphic and see Archimedes (the father of PI), sleeve adorned with six π symbols, struggling with his lever to move the earth (“Give me a place to stand, and a lever long enough, and I will move the world. ”- Archimedes) which was a large pie adorned with a few continents. Even the title was geared to make you think of PI, or rather since that is what they alwyas say things are as easy as.

Then you would solve the puzzle and see that there were 6 words, symmetrically placed, that started with PI (odd to have so many words start the same way) and notice the center clue/answer which was: “A location, like perhaps after a decimal point/PLACE” and say GOTCHA DrTom, PI to 6 places!!!

Some people know that off the top of their head but if not it is easy to find out: 3.141592. You now have one number…or do you have 7? What do you do when a constructor gives you numbers? No, not make numberade; look in the numbered squares. If you do that you get letters that correspond to those numbers, DEMERIT. That satisfies the meta prompt: “The answer is what you might receive if you don't solve the meta”

Not as Easy as they say graphic reveal.jpg

There was a slight detour for some; unwittingly I had clues that also contained a PI starting word. This was silly of me, and totally avoidable, but there all the same. That drew some down a tangential path (a completely different branch of math).

However, 46 off you did "ease" into the solution and a lot said they really liked it. I am always pleased when it is both a solve and an enjoyable solve because all of the constructors do these for your pleasure and enjoyment, that is our goal always, fun!