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Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:06 pm
by AnswerPfinder
Beam me up! Really enjoyed this puzzle from Malaika!

Funny to see so many comments from people that struggled with the grid, I breezed right through. I guess you all now have a sense of what the WSJ grid normally feels like for me! LOL

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:31 pm
by FrankieHeck
AnswerPfinder wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:06 pm Beam me up! Really enjoyed this puzzle from Malaika!

Funny to see so many comments from people that struggled with the grid, I breezed right through. I guess you all now have a sense of what the WSJ grid normally feels like for me! LOL
I actually found it a much smoother solve than normal, too. Which is weird, because I am not exactly a spring chicken. I am immature, though, so maybe that helped.

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:54 am
by bradisbrad
Beam me up! Now if I could just be dropped off at the beach, that'd be neat.

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:06 am
by ky-mike
I must be making the meta much harder than I should be based on number of solves and comments here. No real issues with the grid. I have explored a couple of rabbit holes, but all dead ends so far. A bit more time to play with this, but if anyone wants to debug my thoughts so far, feel free do DM me.

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:22 pm
by Orsys
I see some things, but nothing is taking me anywhere at this point. If I can run this by anyone, please private message me.

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:34 pm
by KayW
Abide wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:43 pm Enjoyed the guest meta and cluing difficulty change-up. But how did 53-A "Singer DiFranco" sneak in there over Rachel McAdams' "True Detective" character? Guess she threw us a bone.

@Bob cruise director, you need to DM @malisolves and ask her to ELI5.
Yet another TIL. (Which itself was a TIL at that time). Such an educational forum :nerd_face:

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:04 pm
by DrTom
WOW, what a fantastic puzzle. I went down sooooo many rabbit holes until, by chance, I saw what might be an avenue and darned if it didn't turn out to be. Kudos to Malika, me likea!

Fire up that transporter please - not confirmed but I feel VERY confident. EDIT: #319 WooHoo

Oh, and my attempt at Sunday humor....
Bishop moves diagonally.jpg

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:43 pm
by DrTom
Barney wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:44 pm
DrTom wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:21 pm Well darn, I got through the grid (with lots of guessing and more than a modicum of Google) but alas no "and then I saw it immediately". I am quite literally META blind this week-end. I must have quite a ways to go because TIL nothing abut solving. (though I did learn a lot about things I didn't know)
If Dr Tom can’t get it, I bail.
No Barney don't bail - I am DISTINCTLY not the person to base your "should I continue" decision on. If it is Al Sisti or Hector or any of a number of others, then yes, but not me.

I asked my Magic 8 Ball the other day; "Will I ever get good at solving metas?". Unfortunately it gave me the same answer as for the Nobel Prize, Tony, MVP, People's Sexiest Man Alive List questions...."As I see it NO!" (and then it quietly chuckled and rolled into the corner).

I finally DID get it, keep trying.

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:44 pm
by Verisimilitude
Done. Fun.

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:46 pm
by DrTom
Abide wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:43 pm @Bob cruise director, you need to DM @malisolves and ask her to ELI5.
Et tu Petrus?

IAIDGMOTA, EWTHOG

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Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:13 pm
by ky-mike
ky-mike wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:06 am I must be making the meta much harder than I should be based on number of solves and comments here. No real issues with the grid. I have explored a couple of rabbit holes, but all dead ends so far. A bit more time to play with this, but if anyone wants to debug my thoughts so far, feel free do DM me.
After another look, I am confidently submitting my answer.

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:00 pm
by matt79
Could someone PM me a gentle starting nudge please? I’ve tried a bunch of approaches and can’t find the first step. Thanks.

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:20 pm
by Abide
matt79 wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:00 pm Could someone PM me a gentle starting nudge please? I’ve tried a bunch of approaches and can’t find the first step. Thanks.
Will do, Mr. Gaffney!

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:15 am
by Cinny
Finally got it!! I had no problem with the grid. But struggled with the meta. I really need to learn not to make these harder than they are. I seem to feel the need to explore many rabbit holes before seeing the obvious!!

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:36 am
by auee89
Finished the grid this morning with a normal amount of Googling for me. TGFG! Meta solved after some over-complicating and reading Cinny's comments. Just stick to the obvious!

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:56 pm
by SusieG
I am also “meta blind” this week. Whiffed on the WSJ and have been down so many rabbit holes here, I am seeing double. May need to start over.

The grid was enjoyable for me and I didn’t have to google anything to solve it (I am also 20A). Although many of the answers were filled with their crossing words.

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:04 pm
by cbarbee002
After a weekend of golf (member/guest) and wedding pretty much all day Sunday due to travel, I totally missed the WSJ puzzle, and now just printed the MGWCC - - wish me luck.

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:15 pm
by SusieG
Is anyone willing to help me sort out my rabbit holes? I have several that each end with nada. Thanks,

Thanks to some clarifications and a great hint, I’ve solved it.

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:41 pm
by cbarbee002
Wow, looked at this thing for an hour and got nadda. Then I decided to do something really, really crazy. I thought, "what could the title mean?". Duh. Submitted, not verified but it's a lock.

Re: #684 - "Seeing Double"

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:03 pm
by burghman
Took DrTom up on the kind offer in his post signatures to give me the slight nudge I needed to cross the finish line - thank you, Dr!