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Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:40 pm
by hoover
I think I'm off the couch after digging under the cushions for loose change again.
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:27 pm
by Laura M
Off the couch! My grandfather also was in the US Navy during WWII.
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:41 pm
by BarbaraK
I'm off the couch after one false start due to an incorrect assumption.
Very clever! Thank you, @whimsy
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:36 pm
by boharr
Laura M wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:27 pm
Off the couch! My grandfather also was in the US Navy during WWII.
One uncle (Navy) captured on Corregidor (survived). Another uncle (Army) helped liberate the Philippines with McArthur.
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:49 pm
by Joe Ross
Uncle in Battle of the Bulge. Dad made it through Navy boot camp, but the end of the war had him released 6 months after joining up.
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:04 pm
by Tom Mueller
Beautifully done. Thank you!
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:23 pm
by Wendy Walker
Thank you, Whimsy, for a terrific and challenging MMM! Alas, for the next few months I will not have a sofa that I can eject from: Two nice men from Bautista's Reupholstering came today and took it away in a truck.
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:32 pm
by boharr
Joe Ross wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:49 pm
Uncle in Battle of the Bulge. Dad made it through Navy boot camp, but the end of the war had him released 6 months after joining up.
Opps, I left out another uncle who was also in the Battle of the Bulge. My dad tried to volunteer, but he had polio as a boy and was rejected.
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:59 pm
by Abide
Whimsy’s Revenge: I’ve been stuck in the cushions all day.
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:13 am
by Bob cruise director
I am stuck on TDC (for all the old car people out there). Holding out for either someone to spill the beans tonight on the zoom call or that Whimsy coughs up a spoiler a day early.
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:47 am
by Anita
I'm just not getting it. Waiting for Wednesday nudges.
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:48 am
by Bob cruise director
While I am working on this, I figured that I would throw out a trivia question - and hope it is not a spoiler.
Do you know why the sides of the ship are called Port and Starboard? And a bonus - why is the bathroom on a ship called the Head?
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:03 pm
by BarbaraK
Just recently read about port. When the ships came in to unload/load, they always pulled up with left side to the port. Modern airliners still do that - load and unload the passengers from the left/port side.
I'm sure I read about starboard in the same article, but I've totally forgotten that. I only know the mnemonic - you get a star for doing right.
No clue about head.
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:59 pm
by KayW
Laura M wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:27 pm
Off the couch! My grandfather also was in the US Navy during WWII.
My dad enlisted in US Navy during WWII - according to him, they were shipping him to Europe but rerouted him to South Pacific when they learned his father was a German citizen (who emigrated after WWI).
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:10 pm
by Dplass
Bob cruise director wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:48 am
While I am working on this, I figured that I would throw out a trivia question - and hope it is not a spoiler.
Do you know why the sides of the ship are called Port and Starboard? And a bonus - why is the bathroom on a ship called the Head?
I know that POSH stands for "PORT OUT STARBOARD HOME".
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:23 pm
by Bob cruise director
Back before they developed rudders for ships, they steered them using a big oar tied to the side of the ship. And since they discriminated against us lefty's they put the oar - or steerboard as it was called - on the right side of the ship. So that side of the ship became known as the steerboard side which became shortened to starboard side as time went on.
And since they did not want to smash the steerboard, they always had the other side of the ship next to the wharf so that side became known as the port side.
Now back to looking for a submarine. or whatever
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:27 pm
by Scott M
OTC (pending confirmation) with one small quibble I mentioned to Whimsy. But it is a well-constructed, fun puzzle!
Edit: Confirmed
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:23 pm
by boharr
Bob cruise director wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:23 pm
Back before they developed rudders for ships, they steered them using a big oar tied to the side of the ship. And since they discriminated against us lefty's they put the oar - or steerboard as it was called - on the right side of the ship. So that side of the ship became known as the steerboard side which became shortened to starboard side as time went on.
And since they did not want to smash the steerboard, they always had the other side of the ship next to the wharf so that side became known as the port side.
Now back to looking for a submarine. or whatever
And it must have been really confusing way back in the day when port was called larboard. As for head, the bow was the place to go (so to speak), and the bow was where the figure head was, hence the name.
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:44 pm
by Bob cruise director
boharr wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:23 pm
Bob cruise director wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:23 pm
Back before they developed rudders for ships, they steered them using a big oar tied to the side of the ship. And since they discriminated against us lefty's they put the oar - or steerboard as it was called - on the right side of the ship. So that side of the ship became known as the steerboard side which became shortened to starboard side as time went on.
And since they did not want to smash the steerboard, they always had the other side of the ship next to the wharf so that side became known as the port side.
Now back to looking for a submarine. or whatever
And it must have been really confusing way back in the day when port was called larboard. As for head, the bow was the place to go (so to speak), and the bow was where the figure head was, hence the name.
From my reference, larboard was the original name which indicated the loading side. And the confusion you mentioned was why they changed to port. The change was made by the British officially in 1844
Re: Andre.....You've Lost Another Submarine?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:09 pm
by Bird Lives
Dplass wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:10 pm
I know that POSH stands for "PORT OUT STARBOARD HOME".
It's a cute etymology, but it's pure fiction.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/help/faq-posh