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Re: "Double Trouble " December 3, 2021

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:07 pm
by mattythewsjpuzzler
flyingMoose wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:21 pm
mattythewsjpuzzler wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:51 pm Still don't get the title unless the two clauses (?) in the answer. But that really doesn't help. Usually more directive.
This may just be my selective memory, but I most often find the title to be confirmation more than anything else. My selective memory or lack of skills to understand how to use the title.
Probably a bit of both agreed. But this one seemed so diametrically opposed to the theme/answers (to me) I kept trying to figure out what to double.

Re: "Double Trouble " December 3, 2021

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:48 pm
by mntlblok
Susan Goldberg wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:02 pm I believe my notes illustrate the ridiculous overthinking in which I engaged on this one. Oh well.
Seems rather "standard" to me. :-)

Re: "Double Trouble " December 3, 2021

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:32 pm
by mntlblok
HunterX wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:39 pm
JAQT wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:11 pm
michaelm wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:23 pm In that regard, I felt the "Double Trouble" puzzle title was a hint by indicating that two problems needed to be addressed in order to fully solve.
To me, "Double Trouble" was confirmation that ADLAADS was the correct answer. To me it indicated that you were in trouble in both of two ways, by being a day late and also by being a dollar short.
I believe it is both. It's a DOUBLE-hint!
Caused me to finally look at what ADLAADS actually says. It's overkill. Makes it a *really* nasty rebuke. Total humiliation. :-)

Re: "Double Trouble " December 3, 2021

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:39 am
by Abide
mattythewsjpuzzler wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:51 pm Still don't get the title unless the two clauses (?) in the answer. But that really doesn't help. Usually more directive.

This may just be my selective memory, …

Probably a bit of both agreed. But this one seemed so diametrically opposed to the theme/answers (to me) I kept trying to figure out what to double.
I’m with Matty on this. Especially when 25-Down (quarter reference) dealt with Olson twins and Geminis.

Re: "Double Trouble " December 3, 2021

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:58 am
by BarbaraK
If any WSJ meta solvers are interested in trying out MGWCC, there's a great opportunity available now
Matt Gaffney wrote: Matt Gaffney's Weekly Crossword Contest

Know anyone who'd dig MGWCC? Let me know -- I have 20 free 3-month subscriptions to give away!

Dear MGWCC Solver,

Thanks to the generosity of two MGWCC superfans, I have 20 free three-month (Dec., Jan., Feb.) MGWCC subscriptions to give away this holiday season.

If you know a solver you think might like metas, please e-mail me at crosswordcontest@gmail.com. Please put "3-Month Subscription" in the subject line, and then their e-mail address and name in the e-mail, and I'll sign them up.

Thanks!

--Matt Gaffney

Re: "Double Trouble " December 3, 2021

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:11 pm
by HunterX
BarbaraK wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:58 am If any WSJ meta solvers are interested in trying out MGWCC, there's a great opportunity available now
Matt Gaffney wrote: Matt Gaffney's Weekly Crossword Contest

Know anyone who'd dig MGWCC? Let me know -- I have 20 free 3-month subscriptions to give away!

Dear MGWCC Solver,

Thanks to the generosity of two MGWCC superfans, I have 20 free three-month (Dec., Jan., Feb.) MGWCC subscriptions to give away this holiday season.

If you know a solver you think might like metas, please e-mail me at crosswordcontest@gmail.com. Please put "3-Month Subscription" in the subject line, and then their e-mail address and name in the e-mail, and I'll sign them up.

Thanks!

--Matt Gaffney
Thanks for the heads up! Even though I have NO free time at the moment, I've submitted my name, because I'm a MWLM. (Masochist Who Loves Metas)

Or were you supposed to submit for me, based on the way it's worded? If so, PM me.

Wait... the MMMM just arrived! Work? What do you mean I have a ton of work to do for my "job"? I'm going to retire soon. Let 'em fire me...

Re: "Double Trouble " December 3, 2021

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:26 pm
by Susan Goldberg
Abide wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:39 am
mattythewsjpuzzler wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:51 pm Still don't get the title unless the two clauses (?) in the answer. But that really doesn't help. Usually more directive.

This may just be my selective memory, …

Probably a bit of both agreed. But this one seemed so diametrically opposed to the theme/answers (to me) I kept trying to figure out what to double.
I’m with Matty on this. Especially when 25-Down (quarter reference) dealt with Olson twins and Geminis.
Agree!

Re: "Double Trouble " December 3, 2021

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:01 pm
by BarbaraK
HunterX wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:11 pm
BarbaraK wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:58 am If any WSJ meta solvers are interested in trying out MGWCC, there's a great opportunity available now
Matt Gaffney wrote: Matt Gaffney's Weekly Crossword Contest

Know anyone who'd dig MGWCC? Let me know -- I have 20 free 3-month subscriptions to give away!

Dear MGWCC Solver,

Thanks to the generosity of two MGWCC superfans, I have 20 free three-month (Dec., Jan., Feb.) MGWCC subscriptions to give away this holiday season.

If you know a solver you think might like metas, please e-mail me at crosswordcontest@gmail.com. Please put "3-Month Subscription" in the subject line, and then their e-mail address and name in the e-mail, and I'll sign them up.

Thanks!

--Matt Gaffney
Thanks for the heads up! Even though I have NO free time at the moment, I've submitted my name, because I'm a MWLM. (Masochist Who Loves Metas)

Or were you supposed to submit for me, based on the way it's worded? If so, PM me.

Wait... the MMMM just arrived! Work? What do you mean I have a ton of work to do for my "job"? I'm going to retire soon. Let 'em fire me...
Cool! Welcome to another meta - and it's accompanying discussion board:)

The wording is awkward because it's just cut and pasted from the email Matt sent to his current subscribers. (Actually cut and pasted from Joe's post on the MGWCC board, which was cut and pasted from the email:)

Re: "Double Trouble " December 3, 2021

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:52 pm
by flyingMoose
Abide wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:39 am
mattythewsjpuzzler wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:51 pm Still don't get the title unless the two clauses (?) in the answer. But that really doesn't help. Usually more directive.

This may just be my selective memory, …

Probably a bit of both agreed. But this one seemed so diametrically opposed to the theme/answers (to me) I kept trying to figure out what to double.
I’m with Matty on this. Especially when 25-Down (quarter reference) dealt with Olson twins and Geminis.
Oh! That is one of the advantages of being of little talent - you don't see the rabbit holes that others see. :)

Re: "Double Trouble " December 3, 2021

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:34 pm
by mindle
Thank you so much for sharing! I have been wanting to try this. I'm glad I visited the forum on a Tuesday :)
BarbaraK wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:58 am If any WSJ meta solvers are interested in trying out MGWCC, there's a great opportunity available now
Matt Gaffney wrote: Matt Gaffney's Weekly Crossword Contest

Know anyone who'd dig MGWCC? Let me know -- I have 20 free 3-month subscriptions to give away!

Dear MGWCC Solver,

Thanks to the generosity of two MGWCC superfans, I have 20 free three-month (Dec., Jan., Feb.) MGWCC subscriptions to give away this holiday season.

If you know a solver you think might like metas, please e-mail me at crosswordcontest@gmail.com. Please put "3-Month Subscription" in the subject line, and then their e-mail address and name in the e-mail, and I'll sign them up.

Thanks!

--Matt Gaffney

Re: "Double Trouble " December 3, 2021

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:55 am
by whimsy
I'm thinking this puzzle must have been inspired by Ms. Ada, on an occasion when her dad had to postpone his Friday puzzle to Saturday once again.
(And her allowance got docked.)

Re: "Double Trouble " December 3, 2021

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:27 pm
by hoover
So I sat back down at my desk at 4:30 this afternoon after another ridiculously late lunch, noted the time, and said "Oh no! I missed the 3pm release of the meta!" Jumped onto the WSJ puzzles site, grabbed the topmost puzzle, and began to solve. Found it tough going, some 23 minutes and change (my usual is around 15). Got to the end, "Congratulations, you've solved the puzzle!" but no submit button. No instructions for a meta, either. ... Oh wait. Today is only Wednesday, and that was the Thursday puzzle, not the Friday contest puzzle. :oops:

Re: "Double Trouble " December 3, 2021

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:04 pm
by JAQT
hoover wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:27 pm So I sat back down at my desk at 4:30 this afternoon after another ridiculously late lunch, noted the time, and said "Oh no! I missed the 3pm release of the meta!" Jumped onto the WSJ puzzles site, grabbed the topmost puzzle, and began to solve. Found it tough going, some 23 minutes and change (my usual is around 15). Got to the end, "Congratulations, you've solved the puzzle!" but no submit button. No instructions for a meta, either. ... Oh wait. Today is only Wednesday, and that was the Thursday puzzle, not the Friday contest puzzle. :oops:
I've been there too! Or, accidentally clicked on the Saturday link on a Friday evening (I still blame that mistake on a slow loading WSJ page that popped up the link as I was clicking -- yeah, sure).

Re: "Double Trouble " December 3, 2021

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:49 am
by Joe Ross
You've described my existence: 22 1/2 hours early & mui tres too many 🧠 cells short, although I tend to do this with the "Saturday" WSJ Number Puzzles, which are posted on Thursday mornings. 🤔

Re: "Double Trouble " December 3, 2021

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:41 pm
by escapeartist
hoover wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:27 pm So I sat back down at my desk at 4:30 this afternoon after another ridiculously late lunch, noted the time, and said "Oh no! I missed the 3pm release of the meta!" Jumped onto the WSJ puzzles site, grabbed the topmost puzzle, and began to solve. Found it tough going, some 23 minutes and change (my usual is around 15). Got to the end, "Congratulations, you've solved the puzzle!" but no submit button. No instructions for a meta, either. ... Oh wait. Today is only Wednesday, and that was the Thursday puzzle, not the Friday contest puzzle. :oops:
Just finished that one - tough but fun construction

Re: "Double Trouble" - December 3, 2021

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:54 pm
by BrianMac
:D

Re: "Double Trouble" - December 3, 2021

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:19 pm
by C=64
I took a few weeks off from the WSJ puzzle and just now looked at this one. Solved in a Page 1 amount of time; I appreciate the unusual mechanism.