MEOW #172 Not As Easy As They Say
- lbray53
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Cat is free. After two hasty submissions I finally settled down and tried the mechanism that I considered first but thought unlikely. What was I thinking? Maybe overthinking. Or underestimating the guile of our good doctor.
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- ajk
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Followed instructions, and hey presto it worked.DrTom wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:55 pmSit back, look through the grid for things that make you ask, "why would he do that"

Very nicely done. My only complaint is that mid-way through I was hoping it wouldn't turn out to be this mechanism, so that I could use it myself.


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- benchen71
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Hoping to wake up to nudges! This puzzle had been resisting all of my meta-solving powers.
Check out "The MOAT Mini Pack of Marching Bands" here. US$5 gets you 7 Marching Bands which, hard enough on their own, now contain metas too. And once again there's a mega-meta! 

- DrTom
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NUDGES:
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NUDGES!I am always willing to give nudges IF ASKED; metas should be about fun, not frustration. PM me what you have done so far, because often you are closer than you think, and I will try to help you move along.
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Sorry Ben, I was on US time and went to bed at a reasonable hour last night. Hope they help!benchen71 wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:11 am Hoping to wake up to nudges! This puzzle had been resisting all of my meta-solving powers.
NUDGES!I am always willing to give nudges IF ASKED; metas should be about fun, not frustration. PM me what you have done so far, because often you are closer than you think, and I will try to help you move along.
- DrTom
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Solver board update:
23 hcbirker
24 lbray53
25 DIS
26 markhr
27 ajk
28 Danny K Bernstein
29 SJMcK
Hmmm, only 7 more people, this is either a lot harder than I thought or the WSJ, which I have yet to look at, is a bear.
23 hcbirker
24 lbray53
25 DIS
26 markhr
27 ajk
28 Danny K Bernstein
29 SJMcK
Hmmm, only 7 more people, this is either a lot harder than I thought or the WSJ, which I have yet to look at, is a bear.
NUDGES!I am always willing to give nudges IF ASKED; metas should be about fun, not frustration. PM me what you have done so far, because often you are closer than you think, and I will try to help you move along.
- DrTom
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Five more join the ranks of "it may not be as easy as they say but I got there!"
30 Mr Tex
31 hoover
32 Johnny Luau
33 JM
34 Jaclyn
30 Mr Tex
31 hoover
32 Johnny Luau
33 JM
34 Jaclyn
NUDGES!I am always willing to give nudges IF ASKED; metas should be about fun, not frustration. PM me what you have done so far, because often you are closer than you think, and I will try to help you move along.
- benchen71
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This was perfect! I left my message before going to sleep, and the nudges were waiting for me when I awoke this morning. The first couple of nudges set me on the correct path, and I think the cat is now out of the bag!

Check out "The MOAT Mini Pack of Marching Bands" here. US$5 gets you 7 Marching Bands which, hard enough on their own, now contain metas too. And once again there's a mega-meta! 

- DrTom
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EXTRA STRONG NUDGE:
NUDGES!I am always willing to give nudges IF ASKED; metas should be about fun, not frustration. PM me what you have done so far, because often you are closer than you think, and I will try to help you move along.
- CPJohnson
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Finally got it with a nudge from @DrTom himself! Thanks! Great puzzle and concept!
Cynthia
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Needed a nudge, but very clever. Thanks, Dr. Tom.
Cindy Heisler
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Well, all the nudges finally helped a little:
35 Tom Wilson
36 benchen71
37 Dave C
38 omnilynx
39 CPJohnson
40 mwoychick
41 Cindy Heisler
I'm glad that it is getting some play and that people are liking it, you always want to see your "children" do well.
35 Tom Wilson
36 benchen71
37 Dave C
38 omnilynx
39 CPJohnson
40 mwoychick
41 Cindy Heisler
I'm glad that it is getting some play and that people are liking it, you always want to see your "children" do well.
NUDGES!I am always willing to give nudges IF ASKED; metas should be about fun, not frustration. PM me what you have done so far, because often you are closer than you think, and I will try to help you move along.
- Cap'n Rick
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Nice one, @DrTom! I needed the nudges, but it all came together nicely in the end.
- Jeremy Smith
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I needed the nudges to complete the final step. Well, actually I didn't--I suspected what the metanism was but was too lazy to do it!
Thanks, DrT!


Thanks, DrT!
- DrTom
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Slowing to a trickle...but still solving!
42 Laura M
43 Capn Rick
44 Jeremy Smith
42 Laura M
43 Capn Rick
44 Jeremy Smith
NUDGES!I am always willing to give nudges IF ASKED; metas should be about fun, not frustration. PM me what you have done so far, because often you are closer than you think, and I will try to help you move along.
- DrTom
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And in under the wire:
45 Ergcat
46 Sharkicicles
45 Ergcat
46 Sharkicicles
NUDGES!I am always willing to give nudges IF ASKED; metas should be about fun, not frustration. PM me what you have done so far, because often you are closer than you think, and I will try to help you move along.
- DrTom
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The REVEAL
Well gosh I thought that this one would be so easy, particularly for those of you that are math inclined. My plan, since this would come out the day before PI Day, was that you would look at the graphic and see Archimedes (the father of PI), sleeve adorned with six π symbols, struggling with his lever to move the earth (“Give me a place to stand, and a lever long enough, and I will move the world. ”- Archimedes) which was a large pie adorned with a few continents. Even the title was geared to make you think of PI, or rather since that is what they alwyas say things are as easy as.
Then you would solve the puzzle and see that there were 6 words, symmetrically placed, that started with PI (odd to have so many words start the same way) and notice the center clue/answer which was: “A location, like perhaps after a decimal point/PLACE” and say GOTCHA DrTom, PI to 6 places!!!
Some people know that off the top of their head but if not it is easy to find out: 3.141592. You now have one number…or do you have 7? What do you do when a constructor gives you numbers? No, not make numberade; look in the numbered squares. If you do that you get letters that correspond to those numbers, DEMERIT. That satisfies the meta prompt: “The answer is what you might receive if you don't solve the meta”
There was a slight detour for some; unwittingly I had clues that also contained a PI starting word. This was silly of me, and totally avoidable, but there all the same. That drew some down a tangential path (a completely different branch of math).
However, 46 off you did "ease" into the solution and a lot said they really liked it. I am always pleased when it is both a solve and an enjoyable solve because all of the constructors do these for your pleasure and enjoyment, that is our goal always, fun!
Well gosh I thought that this one would be so easy, particularly for those of you that are math inclined. My plan, since this would come out the day before PI Day, was that you would look at the graphic and see Archimedes (the father of PI), sleeve adorned with six π symbols, struggling with his lever to move the earth (“Give me a place to stand, and a lever long enough, and I will move the world. ”- Archimedes) which was a large pie adorned with a few continents. Even the title was geared to make you think of PI, or rather since that is what they alwyas say things are as easy as.
Then you would solve the puzzle and see that there were 6 words, symmetrically placed, that started with PI (odd to have so many words start the same way) and notice the center clue/answer which was: “A location, like perhaps after a decimal point/PLACE” and say GOTCHA DrTom, PI to 6 places!!!
Some people know that off the top of their head but if not it is easy to find out: 3.141592. You now have one number…or do you have 7? What do you do when a constructor gives you numbers? No, not make numberade; look in the numbered squares. If you do that you get letters that correspond to those numbers, DEMERIT. That satisfies the meta prompt: “The answer is what you might receive if you don't solve the meta”
There was a slight detour for some; unwittingly I had clues that also contained a PI starting word. This was silly of me, and totally avoidable, but there all the same. That drew some down a tangential path (a completely different branch of math).
However, 46 off you did "ease" into the solution and a lot said they really liked it. I am always pleased when it is both a solve and an enjoyable solve because all of the constructors do these for your pleasure and enjoyment, that is our goal always, fun!
NUDGES!I am always willing to give nudges IF ASKED; metas should be about fun, not frustration. PM me what you have done so far, because often you are closer than you think, and I will try to help you move along.