"One Short" by benchen71
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Crossed the moat! Nudges 5 & 6 did the trick ( already was going in the right direction). Clever construction, Ben!
- ajk
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Yep, I did. But needed nudge 6, to constrain it, and then I just guessed the answer and backsolved. Cool idea though, and impressive construction.
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Crossed the moat. There was no shortage of fun with this one. Thanks for the nudges, Ben.
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One more solver update before lights out:
rjy
MatthewL
kymike
Sharkicicles
SeamusOL
Ergcat
Johnny Luau
woozy
ajk
frostyjhammer
Dow Jones
Spid4567
LauraPRmaven
That brings us up to 30!
rjy
MatthewL
kymike
Sharkicicles
SeamusOL
Ergcat
Johnny Luau
woozy
ajk
frostyjhammer
Dow Jones
Spid4567
LauraPRmaven
That brings us up to 30!
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- Cinny
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Ran into a snag on Tuesday when I started this. Picked it up again this morning and it all fell into place. And without the nudges!
Castle stormed!!
Castle stormed!!
Cindy Heisler
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I think they commonly ask musicians to describe a song they would have loved to have written.
This is a puzzle I would have loved to have constructed: what a delightful mechanism.
Well done, Ben! This MOAT is stormed!
This is a puzzle I would have loved to have constructed: what a delightful mechanism.
Well done, Ben! This MOAT is stormed!
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Great one, Ben! Very clever.
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Wow! Great one! I needed nudge 3--I figured out nudges 1-2 on my own but was doing it wrong.
I don't have anything clever to say, but if I did, it would go here.
Eli
Eli
- DrTom
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Limped across with nudges, nice puzzle that I completely misread the mechanism on. Clever lad though Ben.
NUDGES!I am always willing to give nudges IF ASKED; metas should be about fun, not frustration. PM me what you have done so far, because often you are closer than you think, and I will try to help you move along.
- jhseeman
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Have crossed the Moat, great puzzle setup.
But I was lazy, should have done this yesterday pre-hints.
But I was lazy, should have done this yesterday pre-hints.

- whimsy
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Lazily on vacation and so used nudges --
Got over the moat and now knocking on castle door so I can be in Ben's Count.
Very nice! Thanks, Ben.
Got over the moat and now knocking on castle door so I can be in Ben's Count.
Very nice! Thanks, Ben.
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Some more solvers:
Cindy Heisler
Schmeel
Pair O Ducks
Adam Simon Levine
Mikey G
Capn Rick
Bbaack
hoover
Matt A
DrTom
DebbieC
Caroline
Jim23809
JHSeeman
CPJohnson
whimsy
rfj
That's 47. One more solver update directly before the answer reveal Monday morning (Oz time!)
Cindy Heisler
Schmeel
Pair O Ducks
Adam Simon Levine
Mikey G
Capn Rick
Bbaack
hoover
Matt A
DrTom
DebbieC
Caroline
Jim23809
JHSeeman
CPJohnson
whimsy
rfj
That's 47. One more solver update directly before the answer reveal Monday morning (Oz time!)
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- benchen71
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Just two more solvers, bringing us to a grand total of 49:
edestlin
BarbaraK
And now, on to the reveal...
edestlin
BarbaraK
And now, on to the reveal...
Check out "The MOAT Mini Pack of Marching Bands" here. US$5 gets you 7 Marching Bands which, hard enough on their own, now contain metas too. And once again there's a mega-meta! 

- benchen71
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Here's the solution to "One Short":
I was a little unsure how this one would go over. The "trial and error" nature of getting to the answer was a bit of a gamble. Sure, there was the hint in 43 down, but where was should the column be added? In order to retain rotational symmetry, it had to be right down the middle. I also hoped you would find HEATHY and OFFRED suspiciously weird, with one obvious word that could be made in each case, so that would then confirm that decision. After that, well, that's where the TRIAL AND ERROR would come into it!
Successful solver comments were almost unanimously positive, so I guess the gamble paid off!
I was a little unsure how this one would go over. The "trial and error" nature of getting to the answer was a bit of a gamble. Sure, there was the hint in 43 down, but where was should the column be added? In order to retain rotational symmetry, it had to be right down the middle. I also hoped you would find HEATHY and OFFRED suspiciously weird, with one obvious word that could be made in each case, so that would then confirm that decision. After that, well, that's where the TRIAL AND ERROR would come into it!
Successful solver comments were almost unanimously positive, so I guess the gamble paid off!
Check out "The MOAT Mini Pack of Marching Bands" here. US$5 gets you 7 Marching Bands which, hard enough on their own, now contain metas too. And once again there's a mega-meta! 

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I kept trying to mutate DISCOER into DISCOVER and AMBLERS into GAMBLERS...but after a huge hint and a few iterations, and some... ok I'll say it... _trial and error_... I did find the path.
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I'm still a rookie at this website and I truly appreciate all of the constructors who take the time (days) to compose these great crosswords. But I'm stumped about the spelling of 40A. I thought the name was "Roz" instead of "Ros". Help!
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Oof, you are correct! I think I made the same error in another of my puzzles, too. Sorry if that made solving the meta harder!dsbened wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:49 pm I'm still a rookie at this website and I truly appreciate all of the constructors who take the time (days) to compose these great crosswords. But I'm stumped about the spelling of 40A. I thought the name was "Roz" instead of "Ros". Help!

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@dsbened, I went back and changed the clue. It's now "The girl whose eyes the lead singer of Toto sings about wanting to wake up in the morning and see, for short"benchen71 wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:16 pmOof, you are correct! I think I made the same error in another of my puzzles, too. Sorry if that made solving the meta harder!dsbened wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:49 pm I'm still a rookie at this website and I truly appreciate all of the constructors who take the time (days) to compose these great crosswords. But I'm stumped about the spelling of 40A. I thought the name was "Roz" instead of "Ros". Help!![]()

Check out "The MOAT Mini Pack of Marching Bands" here. US$5 gets you 7 Marching Bands which, hard enough on their own, now contain metas too. And once again there's a mega-meta! 

- dsbened
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Ah yes, Toto's song "Rosanna" Arquette. She also dated Peter Gabriel, I think.benchen71 wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:16 am@dsbened, I went back and changed the clue. It's now "The girl whose eyes the lead singer of Toto sings about wanting to wake up in the morning and see, for short"benchen71 wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:16 pmOof, you are correct! I think I made the same error in another of my puzzles, too. Sorry if that made solving the meta harder!dsbened wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:49 pm I'm still a rookie at this website and I truly appreciate all of the constructors who take the time (days) to compose these great crosswords. But I'm stumped about the spelling of 40A. I thought the name was "Roz" instead of "Ros". Help!![]()
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