"The Play's The Thing" - April 9, 2021

[Kris Zacharias]

no need “to be or not” - onshore, grateful for sophomore college literature course...though, being raised in Pittsburgh, PA, thought soliloquy was simply “or not”

(Grew up hearing “Your room needs cleaned up” and “the car needs washed” and “the garbage needs taken out”...)

“Your room needs cleaned up” -- not "red up"?
“the car needs washed” -- not "needs worshed"?
The same construction is also used with want: "The dog wants fed."
'n at.
(I'm from Saath Hills)

I'm from Boston, now in south central PA. The one that got me was "a while". You want to order a while? I don't think I'll have a while, but maybe a chesseburger?

I’m from Southeastern PA, and can explain “a while.” The Pennsylvania German Dialect (aka Pennsylvania Dutch) was widely spoken and Dutchisms have crept into the local English. The Dialect word “eweil” (from German “eine Weile”) means “now,” “in the meantime” or “meanwhile.” It is obviously quite close to the English “a while.” “Redd up” however originated in Middle English “redden,” fused with “tidy up.” “Redd” is also used now in Scotland.

[Billy M]

and 15 mL is about a half ounce.

...and a half ounce is about a tablespoon.

Just fooling around; I do metric drinks as well. Here's an excerpt from my COcktail MIXer COMIX I think I posted after the new year.20210409_165207.jpg

Yes - a tablespoon being three teaspoons. I prefer metric mixology for sure. Some drinks require a greater level of precision. Especially in batching. It's difficult to measure or do the math related to multiplying 1/6 of an ounce, but not to measure or multiply 5 mL.

[dpl11]

Safely ashore and will take advice from Lorenzo

“Fair thought and happy hours attend you.”
-- Lorenzo, Merchant of Venice. Act 3, Scene 4

[martimeryard]

On shore again. Didn't get around to it the last few weeks. Good to be back!

[wb93]

After a couple weeks of drifting, I found my sea legs and made a strong swim to the beach. I am ashore.

Going to just enjoy the sunshine a while and then a nice shire breu-haus offering.

[mheberlingx100]

“Your room needs cleaned up” -- not "red up"?
“the car needs washed” -- not "needs worshed"?
The same construction is also used with want: "The dog wants fed."
'n at.
(I'm from Saath Hills)

I'm from Boston, now in south central PA. The one that got me was "a while". You want to order a while? I don't think I'll have a while, but maybe a chesseburger?

I’m from Southeastern PA, and can explain “a while.” The Pennsylvania German Dialect (aka Pennsylvania Dutch) was widely spoken and Dutchisms have crept into the local English. The Dialect word “eweil” (from German “eine Weile”) means “now,” “in the meantime” or “meanwhile.” It is obviously quite close to the English “a while.” “Redd up” however originated in Middle English “redden,” fused with “tidy up.” “Redd” is also used now in Scotland.

Thank you! I grew up in Berks County, PA and I always wondered about “red(d)”. My mom used to tell me to “red the table” (clean up the table after the meal) and I’ve been curious as to the origin of the word.

[Bob cruise director]

Not that I should talk, being from Philly. "Do yous wants some jawn? That jawn made me need to drink some wudder."

And then there is NE PA (Scranton - home of the Office) where the English language is used sparingly. The best example I can give is the fact that there is a town named THROOP which is pronounced by everyone from the area as TROOP. To illustrate further the joke is, "I drove through Throop and the sides of the roads were bare; where are all the tress in Troop? Well DUH dingbat, dey'r before da fours...."

That plus the tendency to describe town locations based on where the railroad went, "Oh he's from down da line" (i.e. Wilkes Barre vis a vis Scranton). That said, they are a group that, if you are their neighbor, even if they don't like you, they would be there in a minute if you were in trouble.

I also lived in Central PA for a number of years so "red up" is not foreign to me, but the best are things like "outen the light". "the pie is all" (for all gone) and "jus I duno" (no idea).

Finally, to complete my PA vagabondness, I lived in Philly but "jawn" escapes me? Is that some implication of talking (jawing)?

We can of course talk about these and any number of different accents on Tuesday, I am sooooo sorry I missed the Muggle Zoom this last week. It appears we are growing in number. Pretty soon I'll be able to talk about the halls of mounting zoomers! (too bad we don't have an old Lee who might trip while doing his chores)

DrTom
Come to New England and ask a local for directions - you are just as likely to get them including "turn left where the firehouse used to be" or head toward Centerville which is not a town but a name of a village that was incorporated into a town 100 years ago. The best is in Boston which is a combination of many towns over the years but they never changed the names so there are four different Washington Streets in Boston - (Boston, Jamaica Plain, Brighton, the South End)

[John77]

no need “to be or not” - onshore, grateful for sophomore college literature course...though, being raised in Pittsburgh, PA, thought soliloquy was simply “or not”

(Grew up hearing “Your room needs cleaned up” and “the car needs washed” and “the garbage needs taken out”...)

“Your room needs cleaned up” -- not "red up"?
“the car needs washed” -- not "needs worshed"?
The same construction is also used with want: "The dog wants fed."
'n at.
(I'm from Saath Hills)

I’m from Pittsburgh, lived in Philly, Hershey, Bethlehem and Lancaster! So I’m fluent in many of Pennsylvania’s dialects!! “Red up your room” is a classic!

I have lived in Philly suburbs for nearly 30 years after growing up in upstate NY and the Midwest. Thank God people around here think I still have "an accent."

[BethA]

Not that I should talk, being from Philly. "Do yous wants some jawn? That jawn made me need to drink some wudder."

And then there is NE PA (Scranton - home of the Office) where the English language is used sparingly. The best example I can give is the fact that there is a town named THROOP which is pronounced by everyone from the area as TROOP. To illustrate further the joke is, "I drove through Throop and the sides of the roads were bare; where are all the tress in Troop? Well DUH dingbat, dey'r before da fours...."

That plus the tendency to describe town locations based on where the railroad went, "Oh he's from down da line" (i.e. Wilkes Barre vis a vis Scranton). That said, they are a group that, if you are their neighbor, even if they don't like you, they would be there in a minute if you were in trouble.

I also lived in Central PA for a number of years so "red up" is not foreign to me, but the best are things like "outen the light". "the pie is all" (for all gone) and "jus I duno" (no idea).

Finally, to complete my PA vagabondness, I lived in Philly but "jawn" escapes me? Is that some implication of talking (jawing)?

We can of course talk about these and any number of different accents on Tuesday, I am sooooo sorry I missed the Muggle Zoom this last week. It appears we are growing in number. Pretty soon I'll be able to talk about the halls of mounting zoomers! (too bad we don't have an old Lee who might trip while doing his chores)

DrTom
Come to New England and ask a local for directions - you are just as likely to get them including "turn left where the firehouse used to be" or head toward Centerville which is not a town but a name of a village that was incorporated into a town 100 years ago. The best is in Boston which is a combination of many towns over the years but they never changed the names so there are four different Washington Streets in Boston - (Boston, Jamaica Plain, Brighton, the South End)

I do relate to and appreciate all of the PA talk. What came to mind on this particular comment was the classic — ya can’t get there from here! (I was a co-op student in Hudson Mass in the early ‘80s).

[zacmoretz]

Aunt Norma, lovely Lisa and I are safely ashore. With help from cousins Wayne and Alicia and kids Sawyer and Piper. we are enjoying a lovely port, which is appropriate since we spent the day plying the waters of Charleston Harbor. Cheers to all!

[Cap'n Rick]

Not that I should talk, being from Philly. "Do yous wants some jawn? That jawn made me need to drink some wudder."

And then there is NE PA (Scranton - home of the Office) where the English language is used sparingly. The best example I can give is the fact that there is a town named THROOP which is pronounced by everyone from the area as TROOP. To illustrate further the joke is, "I drove through Throop and the sides of the roads were bare; where are all the tress in Troop? Well DUH dingbat, dey'r before da fours...."

That plus the tendency to describe town locations based on where the railroad went, "Oh he's from down da line" (i.e. Wilkes Barre vis a vis Scranton). That said, they are a group that, if you are their neighbor, even if they don't like you, they would be there in a minute if you were in trouble.

I also lived in Central PA for a number of years so "red up" is not foreign to me, but the best are things like "outen the light". "the pie is all" (for all gone) and "jus I duno" (no idea).

Finally, to complete my PA vagabondness, I lived in Philly but "jawn" escapes me? Is that some implication of talking (jawing)?

We can of course talk about these and any number of different accents on Tuesday, I am sooooo sorry I missed the Muggle Zoom this last week. It appears we are growing in number. Pretty soon I'll be able to talk about the halls of mounting zoomers! (too bad we don't have an old Lee who might trip while doing his chores)

DrTom
Come to New England and ask a local for directions - you are just as likely to get them including "turn left where the firehouse used to be" or head toward Centerville which is not a town but a name of a village that was incorporated into a town 100 years ago. The best is in Boston which is a combination of many towns over the years but they never changed the names so there are four different Washington Streets in Boston - (Boston, Jamaica Plain, Brighton, the South End)

I was born and raised in Central PA, went to Penn State, and then moved to Massachusetts for grad school. When my wife, who is from Arlington, MA (pronounced "Aahlington") first met my mother, who still lives in Philipsburg, PA (pronounced "Phlpsbrg"), her first words were "Excuse me?" It was a good thing I spoke both languages and could act as interpreter. Still comes in handy 30 years later.

[Bob cruise director]

And then there is NE PA (Scranton - home of the Office) where the English language is used sparingly. The best example I can give is the fact that there is a town named THROOP which is pronounced by everyone from the area as TROOP. To illustrate further the joke is, "I drove through Throop and the sides of the roads were bare; where are all the tress in Troop? Well DUH dingbat, dey'r before da fours...."

That plus the tendency to describe town locations based on where the railroad went, "Oh he's from down da line" (i.e. Wilkes Barre vis a vis Scranton). That said, they are a group that, if you are their neighbor, even if they don't like you, they would be there in a minute if you were in trouble.

I also lived in Central PA for a number of years so "red up" is not foreign to me, but the best are things like "outen the light". "the pie is all" (for all gone) and "jus I duno" (no idea).

Finally, to complete my PA vagabondness, I lived in Philly but "jawn" escapes me? Is that some implication of talking (jawing)?

We can of course talk about these and any number of different accents on Tuesday, I am sooooo sorry I missed the Muggle Zoom this last week. It appears we are growing in number. Pretty soon I'll be able to talk about the halls of mounting zoomers! (too bad we don't have an old Lee who might trip while doing his chores)

DrTom
Come to New England and ask a local for directions - you are just as likely to get them including "turn left where the firehouse used to be" or head toward Centerville which is not a town but a name of a village that was incorporated into a town 100 years ago. The best is in Boston which is a combination of many towns over the years but they never changed the names so there are four different Washington Streets in Boston - (Boston, Jamaica Plain, Brighton, the South End)

I do relate to and appreciate all of the PA talk. What came to mind on this particular comment was the classic — ya can’t get there from here! (I was a co-op student in Hudson Mass in the early ‘80s).

How did you get to Hudson. The only things there were Digital and Intel

[Bob cruise director]

And then there is NE PA (Scranton - home of the Office) where the English language is used sparingly. The best example I can give is the fact that there is a town named THROOP which is pronounced by everyone from the area as TROOP. To illustrate further the joke is, "I drove through Throop and the sides of the roads were bare; where are all the tress in Troop? Well DUH dingbat, dey'r before da fours...."

That plus the tendency to describe town locations based on where the railroad went, "Oh he's from down da line" (i.e. Wilkes Barre vis a vis Scranton). That said, they are a group that, if you are their neighbor, even if they don't like you, they would be there in a minute if you were in trouble.

I also lived in Central PA for a number of years so "red up" is not foreign to me, but the best are things like "outen the light". "the pie is all" (for all gone) and "jus I duno" (no idea).

Finally, to complete my PA vagabondness, I lived in Philly but "jawn" escapes me? Is that some implication of talking (jawing)?

We can of course talk about these and any number of different accents on Tuesday, I am sooooo sorry I missed the Muggle Zoom this last week. It appears we are growing in number. Pretty soon I'll be able to talk about the halls of mounting zoomers! (too bad we don't have an old Lee who might trip while doing his chores)

DrTom
Come to New England and ask a local for directions - you are just as likely to get them including "turn left where the firehouse used to be" or head toward Centerville which is not a town but a name of a village that was incorporated into a town 100 years ago. The best is in Boston which is a combination of many towns over the years but they never changed the names so there are four different Washington Streets in Boston - (Boston, Jamaica Plain, Brighton, the South End)

I was born and raised in Central PA, went to Penn State, and then moved to Massachusetts for grad school. When my wife, who is from Arlington, MA (pronounced "Aahlington") first met my mother, who still lives in Philipsburg, PA (pronounced "Phlpsbrg"), her first words were "Excuse me?" It was a good thing I spoke both languages and could act as interpreter. Still comes in handy 30 years later.

And could either one pronounce Worcester right? and then there is Medford - pronounced "Mehfud"

[RichA2]

Good to be ashore after a couple of weeks with Isaac. An easier meta this week, but I still needed a bit of help from Google.

Who else was first exposed to the opening words of the subject soliloquy when they were declaimed by Alfalfa in an episode of The Little Rascals (as some of the Our Gang movie shorts had been retitled when they reached 1950s kids' television)?

[KscX]

Saw the mechanism immediately, but this math major needed to do some googling and then it was a very quick swim ashore. Sadly the math degree didn’t come in handy for ADDing to 1000 either!

This math major (from a liberal arts college!) empathizes with both! THREE times last week I added it all up to 1006. But I did ok this week with just a little interwebs information so thank you Davidson College!

[MajordomoTom]

Bob, et al - been on the beach since about 4:15 pm yesterday, please add me to the socially distanced line at the tiki bar.

I'm buying this next round!

[BethA]

DrTom
Come to New England and ask a local for directions - you are just as likely to get them including "turn left where the firehouse used to be" or head toward Centerville which is not a town but a name of a village that was incorporated into a town 100 years ago. The best is in Boston which is a combination of many towns over the years but they never changed the names so there are four different Washington Streets in Boston - (Boston, Jamaica Plain, Brighton, the South End)

I do relate to and appreciate all of the PA talk. What came to mind on this particular comment was the classic — ya can’t get there from here! (I was a co-op student in Hudson Mass in the early ‘80s).

How did you get to Hudson. The only things there were Digital and Intel

I was a DEC co-op. Intel came much later! I have ties to both. At the risk of saying too much...

[PJM]

Sir, he may live:
I saw him beat the surges under him,
And ride upon their backs; he trod the water,
Whose enmity he flung aside, and breasted
The surge most swoln that met him; his bold head
'Bove the contentious waves he kept, and oar'd
Himself with his good arms in lusty stroke
To the shore, that o'er his wave-worn basis bow'd,
As stooping to relieve him: I not doubt
He came alive to land.

- The Tempest

Cheers all!

[DannyWalter]

DrTom
Come to New England and ask a local for directions - you are just as likely to get them including "turn left where the firehouse used to be" or head toward Centerville which is not a town but a name of a village that was incorporated into a town 100 years ago. The best is in Boston which is a combination of many towns over the years but they never changed the names so there are four different Washington Streets in Boston - (Boston, Jamaica Plain, Brighton, the South End)

I was born and raised in Central PA, went to Penn State, and then moved to Massachusetts for grad school. When my wife, who is from Arlington, MA (pronounced "Aahlington") first met my mother, who still lives in Philipsburg, PA (pronounced "Phlpsbrg"), her first words were "Excuse me?" It was a good thing I spoke both languages and could act as interpreter. Still comes in handy 30 years later.

And could either one pronounce Worcester right? and then there is Medford - pronounced "Mehfud"

I have had the pleasure of teaching people how to pronounce Gloucester (Glahstah) and Worcester (Woostah) correctly. Kevin White was the quintesential mayor of "the shity of Bohstn".

[Joe Ross]

I was a DEC co-op. Intel came much later! I have ties to both. At the risk of saying too much...

Beth,

You may have to explain that 'co-ops' were quarters (formerly, now tri-mesters) of paid work within your field of study. Paid internships, essentially, alternating between class & work semesters. A 'co-op' is also a student who 'co-ops.'

It's a great way to learn a chosen profession and pay for college. Starting after freshman year & ending before senior, it is year-round with no summer breaks (nor 'spring breaks,' if working) & adds a year to the typical 4 years of college.