MEOW #229 The Real Menace

A weekly meta crossword on the forum started by member Josh (aka madhatter5). These puzzles are often very creative with solving mechanisms out of the norm and skewing towards the more challenging. Puzzles are posted every Wednesday, and the solution appears the following Tuesday.
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Day 1:

1 Darth 
2 DCBilly 
3 Cindy Heisler 
4 rjy 
5 DIS 
6 imontoo 
7 MatthewL 
8 I K Snamhcok 
9 heidi 
10 Meg 
11 Tom Wilson 
12 CPJohnson 
13 Scrivimancer 
14 markhr 
15 whimsy 
16 Bob cruise director

Not the clamoring for a spot on the board that I had hoped, but MUCH better than last week. Now all I have to do is solve the MOAT which I was COMPLETELY off-track on. Hopefully nobody is there with this one.

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#22

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Finally freed! The cat was trying to get out of the wrong end of the bag. Did a 180 and there was the opening.
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fun one, thanks DrTom.
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Cat is free! Good one, Dr Tom!
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Waiting for nudges I am
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#26

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Lol had the explicit part in 5 minutes. Took 2 days and a group solve to get the rest :lol:
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Well shucky darn, I thought this would be a real romp in the park but instead I seem to have taken folks to the dark side, let me try to nudge you back into the force...each one should bring you a bit closer to getting your own light saber in order to slay this monster.

A LOT of people have submitted only the first part, the explicit part of 2 words and of course they were correct. But the answer is the 5 word phrase so the second part is needed. Neither Crosshare nor I give partial credit

I mentioned I was watching Wheel of Fortune, but the type of puzzle specifically was one of the "Before and After". If you are not familiar with those a quick Google may help.

The explicit part is the first two words of the final answer

Remember that Luke was a, arguably THE, Jedi Knight in later years.

If you are still stuck try Googling the name of movies in the Star Wars franchise. You can stick with the original six and you can obviously eliminate one of those because I'd NEVER be that obvious as to almost include the spoiler in the title.
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hoover wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:46 pm Waiting for nudges I am
Posted they are, happy I hope you will be....

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Um... but none of those nudges actually are about how to solve the meta in the first first place.
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ajk wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:15 pm Lol had the explicit part in 5 minutes. Took 2 days and a group solve to get the rest :lol:
Exact opposite.

All this talk of explicit and made me know the form and idea and a wild guess in about 15 minutes (which surprisingly worked) But it wasn't until after that that I had any clue whatsoever how to derive the explicit part and that eluded me for two days. (Some nudges on *that* might be useful but I can how one might forget them)

Pretty funny and clever.
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I think the nudges got my cat out! :D
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woozy wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:06 pm
ajk wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:15 pm Lol had the explicit part in 5 minutes. Took 2 days and a group solve to get the rest :lol:
Exact opposite.

All this talk of explicit and made me know the form and idea and a wild guess in about 15 minutes (which surprisingly worked) But it wasn't until after that that I had any clue whatsoever how to derive the explicit part and that eluded me for two days. (Some nudges on *that* might be useful but I can how one might forget them)

Pretty funny and clever.
Ah, but a Meti Knight doesn't do wild guesses, they feel the "force" pushing them in the right direction! So glad you were able to light saber your way through the underbrush.

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benchen71 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:15 pm I think the nudges got my cat out! :D
Was it waiting for you when you got home??

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Hope the journey was fun, both the actual and the meta journey.

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Nudges helped they did!

17 Berto 
18 lbray53 
19 LarsCaine 
20 Moreo5 
21 jetelana 
22 antdisp 
23 Pair O Ducks 
24 JHSeeman 
25 Ergcat 
26 Mg305 
27 ajk 
28 woozy 
29 Polyagonist 
30 HoldThatThought
31 benchen71

Keep solving , don't let the Empire win! Just be careful where you travel because you don't want to run into this:

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Ewok on the wild side!
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I think I just don't have the cultural knowledge required to solve this meta. Based on 71A I even resorted to consulting IMDB for the first names of the actors who played characters referenced in the clues but that's not getting me anywhere. I've only seen IV - V - VI a very long time ago, and I couldn't tell you the plot if you asked me (when I read snippets of commentary I always think, was that in the movie I watched?). I also saw the one where young whatshername swoons over young "oh, Anakin, Anakin!" when it came out, but the bit I quoted is all I remember. I think there are some spaceships, and a bad guy, or maybe a bunch of bad guys, and some furries, and some robots? And a bar scene with that thing from the Mucinex commercials.
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hoover wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:38 am I think I just don't have the cultural knowledge required to solve this meta. Based on 71A I even resorted to consulting IMDB for the first names of the actors who played characters referenced in the clues but that's not getting me anywhere. I've only seen IV - V - VI a very long time ago, and I couldn't tell you the plot if you asked me (when I read snippets of commentary I always think, was that in the movie I watched?). I also saw the one where young whatshername swoons over young "oh, Anakin, Anakin!" when it came out, but the bit I quoted is all I remember. I think there are some spaceships, and a bad guy, or maybe a bunch of bad guys, and some furries, and some robots? And a bar scene with that thing from the Mucinex commercials.
This sums up my knowledge of the series very well :lol: - and my status on solving. Except I knew fewer details than that. The good doctor prescribed some extra-strength nudges this morning; I'll chew on those awhile.
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Well I asked an umpire what I should do because it seems this is a lot harder than I anticipated and people are assuming a need for a lot more SW knowledge than is necessary. Anyway the umpire struck back with these further nudges:

There are nine letters in the first two words, so you need to find 9 "themers" for the "explicit" part and come up with three more words for the rest. The last three are only loosely Star Wars related and are more related to the "Before and After" mentioned earlier

I tried to make the theme answers pretty blatant, they are worded to leave no doubt that the clue relates to Star Wars. Don't try to think like, "well she dated a guy who lived near George Lucas so that must be one", or "there is a C in that clue a P in that one and an O in that one and there are three of them so C3PO". Read them and you should have no doubt which are theme clues/answers (note I am emphasizing CLUE a lot!!!)

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I had to have help extracting the cat, but finally the bag is ripped to shreds and the nudge-bruised feline has escaped.
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hoover wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:55 pm I had to have help extracting the cat, but finally the bag is ripped to shreds and the nudge-bruised feline has escaped.
Regardless the toll, the victor emerges!

Thanks for sticking with it.

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A few more return to Alderaan after a vigorous battle with a bag:

32 Fedexpope
33 hoover
34 MountainManZach 
35 KayW 

Unfortunately, experience has taught me that 35 is likely to be the end number. But hey, I liked the idea even if it was not universally popular...of course I'm a Star Wars geek.
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