MGWCC #828 — "Know Your Place"

[benchen71]

Awaiting the beam... [Lots of staring at the grid before a flash of inspiration hit. And that's why we do these things! ]

... and I'm beamed at #96.

[Laura M]

Finally saw the light! Awaiting beamage.

Edit: Made the top 100, at #97.

[HeadinHome]

I have two incomplete entries in the grid, on which I'm stumped: 57A and 57D, both 3 letters long. Anyone else have the same issue?

I have that crossing letter filled in, and it makes sense to me for 57D, but the one across I still don’t understand, even with the explanation above (including the spoiler). Huh??

No idea yet on the meta, but I just finished the grid this morning (yesterday was busy.. Saturdays are not good for me to get on a meta midday!). I thought the grid was really crunchy… google not that helpful, because it was more about stretching the lateral thinking, on the clueing.

I may look for a solvers powwow this afternoon, if anyone’s around then! (2-ish, eastern).

Update - Alan lurking on Discord is always a relief. Some helpful gentle nudging was great… submitted and awaiting beam.

[Joe]

I have two incomplete entries in the grid, on which I'm stumped: 57A and 57D, both 3 letters long. Anyone else have the same issue?

I have that crossing letter filled in, and it makes sense to me for 57D, but the one across I still don’t understand, even with the explanation above (including the spoiler). Huh??

No idea yet on the meta, but I just finished the grid this morning (yesterday was busy.. Saturdays are not good for me to get on a meta midday!). I thought the grid was really crunchy… google not that helpful, because it was more about stretching the lateral thinking, on the clueing.

I may look for a solvers powwow this afternoon, if anyone’s around then! (2-ish, eastern).

I’d be ok with that! Using the zoom link?

[BarbaraK]

Beam up requested. This one brought back great memories. Details after the deadline.

[TMart]

Awaiting the beam. Hard week 1, hard week 2. Either these are getting harder or I’m getting dumber.

[HoldThatThought]

Having solved, I'm trying to decide if it's "hard", as in "complex", or just "hard", as in I've developed lazy solving habits, based on certain presumptions and expectations.

By the time I've eliminated all of the Top 10 Most Frequent Gaffney Metanisms, I'm already getting stubborn about forcing one of those on the grid.

I think when a puzzle changes things up, "hard" comes to mind before "refreshing", "clever", and "entirely fair".

YMMVCDOWYHAEAHOAGEV*

*(your mileage may vary considerably depending on whether you have an electric, a hybrid, or a gas engine vehicle)

[HunterX]

Having solved, I'm trying to decide if it's "hard", as in "complex", or just "hard", as in I've developed lazy solving habits, based on certain presumptions and expectations.

Taking an "I'm the center of the universe" perspective, I consider it as follows:
"Hard" = "It took me a long time to get" or "I couldn't get it (without help)"
"Easy" = "I got it quickly"

Adding a second dimension:
"Hard" plus "Not Complex" = SAD
"Easy" plus "Complex" = LAMIAG*

Having not solved yet, I deem it "hard" for now.

Note: Your universe may have a different center than mine.

*Look At Me I'm A Genius

[Katiedid]

lost in space for now

[Sfreedman67]

I filled out the grid and sat on it overnight but still have nothing...would anyone mind giving me a nudge?

Edit1: alternatively, would someone mind sharing a Discord invite?

Edit2: After a lot of nudging I finally got it! I'd still appreciate a Discord link though.

[HeadinHome]

I have two incomplete entries in the grid, on which I'm stumped: 57A and 57D, both 3 letters long. Anyone else have the same issue?

I have that crossing letter filled in, and it makes sense to me for 57D, but the one across I still don’t understand, even with the explanation above (including the spoiler). Huh??

No idea yet on the meta, but I just finished the grid this morning (yesterday was busy.. Saturdays are not good for me to get on a meta midday!). I thought the grid was really crunchy… google not that helpful, because it was more about stretching the lateral thinking, on the clueing.

I may look for a solvers powwow this afternoon, if anyone’s around then! (2-ish, eastern).

I’d be ok with that! Using the zoom link?

Sorry Joe! I did the Discord before I saw this. Got it.

[sharkicicles]

Got it with a helpful nudge from the Sunday night zoom crew!

[woozy]

I have that crossing letter filled in, and it makes sense to me for 57D, but the one across I still don’t understand, even with the explanation above (including the spoiler). Huh??

Okay The clue number is 57. And the clue is "+4 in ancient Rome". You read that with the clue number and it reads "57 + 4 in ancient Rome"

[Joe]

Got there with a bit of help.

[StunGun]

Needed a nudge, so I guess my performance is best described by an 11-letter hyphenated adjective…

[Qmark]

Awaiting the site update, but pretty sure I got it...

Update: on the board at #197

[Katiedid]

Same here. I think I got it last night - still waiting to be beamed up.

[schmidzy]

Good grief, still just not seeing this one. I caved and submitted my WAG, we'll see if it gets me anywhere...

[ky-mike]

Not due until noon on Wednesday. You had another day to work on it.

[schmidzy]

Rats! Oh well, maybe it's my lucky day, the next beam will tell.

Update: It was not my lucky day