"Showtime" November 25, 2022

A place to discuss the weekly Wall Street Journal Crossword Puzzle Contest, starting every Thursday around 4:00 p.m. Eastern time. Please do not post any answers or hints before the contest deadline which is midnight Sunday Eastern time.
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Last week with the all the hoop-la I forgot to submit. On a rare/unique occasion when I got it wrong and still had a chance of getting the mug. Anyhoo, just had a final look at this week’s and bingo. Also remembered to submit. How on earth did Mr Shenk divine this one??
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If you're stuck, this is a puzzle that rewards discipline in discarding ideas and thinking of new ideas. You have to try something (conceivable... from a certain angle) with essentially no confidence of success beforehand. There are signposts.
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Ashore! One of my early mentors taught me to trust my intuition. Good advice! Still, that didn’t stop me spending a few hours in dark places before circling back to my first idea and polishing that rough little mud-covered and rock-encrusted diamond into the shining crown jewel that is my meta submission! Time for a Loch Lomond 12-yr old with a very small ice cube to celebrate being on page 12!
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I just threw myself headlong overboard with a swag, so no longer at the bar.

maybe at a sand bar, we'll see.
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arecibo wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:41 pm If you're stuck, this is a puzzle that rewards discipline in discarding ideas and thinking of new ideas. You have to try something (conceivable... from a certain angle) with essentially no confidence of success beforehand. There are signposts.
been there, done that, only found this lousy t-shirt
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Ohhhhhhh. I had a feeling the numbers were it and tried so many ideas including the letter positions of the last two digits, 88, 81, etc. I even noted the clue for YEAR but still didn’t think of checking all four digits!!! Argh. Beautiful construction; hats off to Mike Shenk!!
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Having the grid answer of 13D YEAR really helped solidify that the dates of the theme clues were important.

I wouldn't have solved this week's puzzle without that tidbit.
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OMG how many movies are titled where the digits of the year of the movie's release spell a word that can be used to clue a grid answer AND fit symmetrically into a standard crossword grid?
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OK. So I am competing now for the Rabbit Hole Award. First of all, I looked at the title SHOWTIMES and the answer A MOVIE TERM. So like many of the solvers I continued to dig deeper and eventually found the puzzle answer, but for some reason, it didn’t really seem to fit from my experience. Because, before I actually solved the “real” answer I went down a Rabbit Hole which seemed much more fitting to my experience. Now when I think of movies, I think of ones I see in the actual movie theatre. And because I love my wife, I let her decide which movies we watch. And because my wife is such a wonderful and loving person, she always chooses those ones that were described in a recent WSJ puzzle answer, namely, ROMCOMS. Personally, I enjoy documentaries, sports, games etc. but not ROMCOMS. So, when I first started solving the puzzle, I took the end number from each of the year dates in the clues. Namely 8, 1, 4, 3 and 1. So then when I counted back to the letters in those numerical amounts, I came up with L, P, S, E and T, in that order. So then after rearrangement I came up with and ANSWER: SLEPT!! Which is exactly what I do when watch a ROMCOM movie! So that is the answer I submitted.
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Ok, I jumped off the ship and landed in a lifeboat hanging from davits off the port side, never made it to the water, much less to dry land.

There's always next week.
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escapeartist wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:16 am OMG how many movies are titled where the digits of the year of the movie's release spell a word that can be used to clue a grid answer AND fit symmetrically into a standard crossword grid?
And are not totally obscure films...
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Well of course, it seems so obvious now. But I didn’t know what to do with the years, so I added the four digits of each year. Got 26, 19, 22, 21, and 17. The letters in those numbered squares S, I, E, P, C anagram into my answer: EPICS.
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I'm seeing trends regarding the puzzles that I can't solve. I will have to try to keep these lessons in mind next time I'm stumped. I knew the year was significant, but I was chasing the rabbit hole of looking up Oscar winners from those years and hoping to see a pattern.
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When I was trying to solo solve, I was stuck in a shallow but persistent rabbit hole regarding alternate clue answers. 54A "Test by a Neurologist" fits EEG, but I smiled with joy when I realized that is also a "Spinal Tap". How could that not be the right path? Thankfully my son saved the weekend by focusing instead on the year clue, otherwise I would never have been able to let this go.
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FrancesY wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:44 am Well of course, it seems so obvious now. But I didn’t know what to do with the years, so I added the four digits of each year. Got 26, 19, 22, 21, and 17. The letters in those numbered squares S, I, E, P, C anagram into my answer: EPICS.
That was my answer, too. It didn't seem right, but it was all I could find.
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escapeartist wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:16 am OMG how many movies are titled where the digits of the year of the movie's release spell a word that can be used to clue a grid answer AND fit symmetrically into a standard crossword grid?
This becomes super-easy to figure out nowadays with a Wikipedia-esque list of movie releases by year, a copy of MS Excel, and knowing how to use the LEN, LEFT and MID functions.

I never even noticed 13D; my solve was based entirely on the "Time" half of the puzzle title.
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MikeM000 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:12 am
escapeartist wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:16 am OMG how many movies are titled where the digits of the year of the movie's release spell a word that can be used to clue a grid answer AND fit symmetrically into a standard crossword grid?
This becomes super-easy to figure out nowadays with a Wikipedia-esque list of movie releases by year, a copy of MS Excel, and knowing how to use the LEN, LEFT and MID functions.

I never even noticed 13D; my solve was based entirely on the "Time" half of the puzzle title.
"super-easy"???
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KayW wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:51 am

"super-easy"???
8 minutes and 58 seconds, with a couple breaks to get my dog some treats. Got a list of 271 1987 movies; 142 had 9-15 characters in the title. These could conceivably start clues, although SEVE and OONA might be tough without an apostrophe S.

BlindDate 9 B e t a
DeadlyPrey 10 D e r P
EmpireState 11 E a t S
LeonardPart6 12 L a P d
Mauvaissang 11 M a s s
NowheretoHide 13 N o t e
OneWomanorTwo 13 O o n a
ScaredStiff 11 S i t S
StreetSmart 11 S a m S
SweetRevenge 12 S e v e

(and yes, if I did this again I'd change it to ALL CAPS. Tough to tell capital I from small l.)
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