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Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:51 pm
by NuYear68
The Joker's make-up = Smile Smudge

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:15 pm
by MikeMillerwsj
Greetings--as you may have seen in my colleague Taylor's post above, our February contests are going to be tailored to beginners (spread the word!), so that they can serve as our curriculum for a forthcoming guide to solving metas. The result: we blew past all our previous records, with 3762 submissions. About 76% were correct, right in line with our typical level. We take this as proof that the addressable market for metas is much bigger than we'd been reaching--we just need to build the right on-ramp. And for you seasoned Muggles, don't worry, things will get spicier in March. Meanwhile we had almost Pageant levels of guesses for JUDGE alone, with 849! Plus several other flavors of judges (Juvenile, Circuit, Small Claims, et al.)

Congrats to this week's winner who beat the longest odds yet: Peter Covert of Stanford, Calif.!

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:29 pm
by Jeremy Smith
22.6% submitted JUDGE. I wonder what percentage of us (myself included!) submitted something like BOWL GAMES in the PAGEANT meta?

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:46 pm
by BarbaraK
Jeremy Smith wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:29 pm 22.6% submitted JUDGE. I wonder what percentage of us (myself included!) submitted something like BOWL GAMES in the PAGEANT meta?
Only 13% submitted PAGEANT. I'd guess most of the remaining 87% were some variation of bowl games, but if Mike reported the exact number, I didn't record it.

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:54 pm
by FrankH
Jeremy Smith wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:29 pm 22.6% submitted JUDGE. I wonder what percentage of us (myself included!) submitted something like BOWL GAMES in the PAGEANT meta?
That was never mentioned in Mike Miller's post. Maybe some of the statisticians here can verify, but I believe the percent of correct entries was in the teens.

JUDGE also popped into my mind immediately, but it seemed not satisfying. So I kept looking and it took me some time to find the answer.

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:56 pm
by BarbaraK
MikeMillerwsj wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:15 pm Greetings--as you may have seen in my colleague Taylor's post above, our February contests are going to be tailored to beginners (spread the word!), so that they can serve as our curriculum for a forthcoming guide to solving metas. The result: we blew past all our previous records, with 3762 submissions. About 76% were correct, right in line with our typical level. We take this as proof that the addressable market for metas is much bigger than we'd been reaching--we just need to build the right on-ramp. And for you seasoned Muggles, don't worry, things will get spicier in March. Meanwhile we had almost Pageant levels of guesses for JUDGE alone, with 849! Plus several other flavors of judges (Juvenile, Circuit, Small Claims, et al.)

Congrats to this week's winner who beat the longest odds yet: Peter Covert of Stanford, Calif.!
Awesome!

I still wonder how many people are out there who solve regularly but don't bother to submit. I can imagine lots wouldn't want to risk getting on some junk mail list (because who really trusts businesses to not sell their data) just for a small chance to win a mug.

Maybe you should offer a really really big prize sometime and see what happens :)

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:58 pm
by Bob cruise director
MikeMillerwsj wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:15 pm Greetings--as you may have seen in my colleague Taylor's post above, our February contests are going to be tailored to beginners (spread the word!), so that they can serve as our curriculum for a forthcoming guide to solving metas. The result: we blew past all our previous records, with 3762 submissions. About 76% were correct, right in line with our typical level. We take this as proof that the addressable market for metas is much bigger than we'd been reaching--we just need to build the right on-ramp. And for you seasoned Muggles, don't worry, things will get spicier in March. Meanwhile we had almost Pageant levels of guesses for JUDGE alone, with 849! Plus several other flavors of judges (Juvenile, Circuit, Small Claims, et al.)

Congrats to this week's winner who beat the longest odds yet: Peter Covert of Stanford, Calif.!
I wonder if these weeks should go into the record books with an * like steroid records in baseball??? :lol:

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:07 pm
by michaelm
Kind of feels like when that local musician you first heard and loved hits it big time?
Ah well, gonna need a bigger beach!

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:40 am
by escapeartist
BarbaraK wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:56 pm
Maybe you should offer a really really big prize sometime and see what happens :)
Wait, what?

The official WSJ puzzle mug is the pinnacle of all prizes on the planet, IMO. 8-)

Gimmie that mug!

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:13 am
by C=64
Bob cruise director wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:58 pm
I wonder if these weeks should go into the record books with an * like steroid records in baseball??? :lol:
I was thinking about the Bruins' scoring records in 1970-71 against expansion clubs.

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:31 am
by steveb
MikeMillerwsj wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:15 pm Greetings--as you may have seen in my colleague Taylor's post above, our February contests are going to be tailored to beginners (spread the word!), so that they can serve as our curriculum for a forthcoming guide to solving metas. The result: we blew past all our previous records, with 3762 submissions. About 76% were correct, right in line with our typical level. We take this as proof that the addressable market for metas is much bigger than we'd been reaching--we just need to build the right on-ramp. And for you seasoned Muggles, don't worry, things will get spicier in March. Meanwhile we had almost Pageant levels of guesses for JUDGE alone, with 849! Plus several other flavors of judges (Juvenile, Circuit, Small Claims, et al.)

Congrats to this week's winner who beat the longest odds yet: Peter Covert of Stanford, Calif.!
The closest to me the mug has come so far! Just nudge it over a mile or two.

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:47 am
by KscX
steveb wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:31 am
MikeMillerwsj wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:15 pm Congrats to this week's winner who beat the longest odds yet: Peter Covert of Stanford, Calif.!
The closest to me the mug has come so far! Just nudge it over a mile or two.
Last week it was 20 miles from me. This week it’s 2,690 miles from me. That’s a lot of progress lost.

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:09 pm
by SusieG
MikeMillerwsj wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:15 pm Greetings--as you may have seen in my colleague Taylor's post above, our February contests are going to be tailored to beginners (spread the word!), so that they can serve as our curriculum for a forthcoming guide to solving metas. The result: we blew past all our previous records, with 3762 submissions. About 76% were correct, right in line with our typical level. We take this as proof that the addressable market for metas is much bigger than we'd been reaching--we just need to build the right on-ramp. And for you seasoned Muggles, don't worry, things will get spicier in March. Meanwhile we had almost Pageant levels of guesses for JUDGE alone, with 849! Plus several other flavors of judges (Juvenile, Circuit, Small Claims, et al.)

Congrats to this week's winner who beat the longest odds yet: Peter Covert of Stanford, Calif.!
Your trick worked at our house. My daughter and her boyfriend saw my puzzle sitting on the table Friday and tried to solve it. My daughter said “they’re usually too complicated for me,” but is willing to give it a go this week, since they’re geared for beginners.

Metas can be difficult for outsiders. When I was recently explaining a MGWCC week 5 my husband looked at me and said “I know you’re speaking English, but I didn’t understand anything you just said.”

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:55 pm
by Bob cruise director
C=64 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:13 am
Bob cruise director wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:58 pm
I wonder if these weeks should go into the record books with an * like steroid records in baseball??? :lol:
I was thinking about the Bruins' scoring records in 1970-71 against expansion clubs.
True but all six original teams were playing against those same expansion clubs.

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:00 pm
by Abide
MikeMillerwsj wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:15 pm The result: we blew past all our previous records, with 3762 submissions. About 76% were correct, right in line with our typical level. We take this as proof that the addressable market for metas is much bigger than we'd been reaching--we just need to build the right on-ramp. And for you seasoned Muggles, don't worry, things will get spicier in March. Meanwhile we had almost Pageant levels of guesses for JUDGE alone, with 849!
22.6% of the submitted answers is a definite Pageant to me, not "almost" :ugeek:

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:11 pm
by ron
BarbaraK wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:56 pm
MikeMillerwsj wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:15 pm Greetings--as you may have seen in my colleague Taylor's post above, our February contests are going to be tailored to beginners (spread the word!), so that they can serve as our curriculum for a forthcoming guide to solving metas. The result: we blew past all our previous records, with 3762 submissions. About 76% were correct, right in line with our typical level. We take this as proof that the addressable market for metas is much bigger than we'd been reaching--we just need to build the right on-ramp. And for you seasoned Muggles, don't worry, things will get spicier in March. Meanwhile we had almost Pageant levels of guesses for JUDGE alone, with 849! Plus several other flavors of judges (Juvenile, Circuit, Small Claims, et al.)

Congrats to this week's winner who beat the longest odds yet: Peter Covert of Stanford, Calif.!
Awesome!

I still wonder how many people are out there who solve regularly but don't bother to submit. I can imagine lots wouldn't want to risk getting on some junk mail list (because who really trusts businesses to not sell their data) just for a small chance to win a mug.

Maybe you should offer a really really big prize sometime and see what happens :)
Or possibly the mug allotment could be increased on a per capita basis so the odds wouldn't be even more remote than they are now.

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:41 pm
by Gman
Abide wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:00 pm
MikeMillerwsj wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:15 pm The result: we blew past all our previous records, with 3762 submissions. About 76% were correct, right in line with our typical level. We take this as proof that the addressable market for metas is much bigger than we'd been reaching--we just need to build the
22.6% of the submitted answers is a definite Pageant to me, not "almost" :ugeek:
In fact, I would say we should now refer to trickster one more step answers as to be PAGEANT JUDGED!

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:40 pm
by Commodore
SusieG wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:09 pm Metas can be difficult for outsiders. When I was recently explaining a MGWCC week 5 my husband looked at me and said “I know you’re speaking English, but I didn’t understand anything you just said.”
"It's simple. In other words, the Meta is analogous to purchasing an out-of-the-money put option contract on Gamestop using a long hard-fork position in a derivative bitcoin nano swap, pretend this salt shaker is 10 naked calls deliverable at the March triple witching while the spoon here is a clearinghouse....blah, blah, blah."

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:35 pm
by Mattbelc16
Commodore wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:40 pm
SusieG wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:09 pm Metas can be difficult for outsiders. When I was recently explaining a MGWCC week 5 my husband looked at me and said “I know you’re speaking English, but I didn’t understand anything you just said.”
"It's simple. In other words, the Meta is analogous to purchasing an out-of-the-money put option contract on Gamestop using a long hard-fork position in a derivative bitcoin nano swap, pretend this salt shaker is 10 naked calls deliverable at the March triple witching while the spoon here is a clearinghouse....blah, blah, blah."
I understand every word you said. I just don’t know what they mean in that order.

Re: "Poetic Justice" February 5, 2021

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:37 am
by Meg
Matt posted this on Twitter. Ada Louise Gaffney, bundle of joy, born 2/3/21.