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I used IMDB as well, for the same reasons. As soon as I saw that Coming To America came out in 1988 I knew I had the explanation for the mysterious years in parentheses, and that I had the path to the answer.eagle1279 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:20 pm In addition to 5-letter movie titles such as "Bambi" (one letter short of IAMB?), I tried to back-solve for the 10-letter "Cinderella." Also thought FORGIVEN might somehow lead to "Atonement." Once I saw COMING TO (America?) and MEN IN (Tights?), I used IMDB to search for movie titles starting with the ending letters of the theme-answer words, which was more efficient than Mr. G because it immediately pulled up the titles and dates and was limited to movies.
I assume that Private Eyes were involved.Wendy Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:54 pmYou will not believe this, Dr. Tom ... there actually IS a musical connection (if not H&O) with the barn, and not a happy one! During a wedding reception one of the band members "took a break" out by the barn ruins, tripped and broke his ankle. He sued us. It ended up being a very expensive fall in (near) Philadelphia for our insurance company.
Interesting, though I never had maggot boots (or kinky boots either) I did write and entire article on Maggot Therapy. Gross or not it still has application today. You do have to explain to the patient and family why their bandage might move, but hey, the stink of a necrotic wound resolves in a day or so and you cannot get better microsurgeons than maggots! You used to have to order them from California, and of course they got them to you by flying them - always cracked me up and kept the humor buzzing. After all why shouldn't they "Help Me, Help Me!" (OK, here it comes, I'm ready.....)LadyBird wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:10 pm A memory popped immediately into my head when I first saw BATHE MAGGOT.
Back in the late 80's, I decided to celebrate finishing grad school by doing a 23-day Outward Bound Course in North Carolina. It was fairly primitive: no tents just tarps strung overhead, purifying water from streams, carrying everything on our backs, etc. We had several grueling 3-day hikes, 3 days of whitewater canoeing, 3 days of solo, and 3 days of rock climbing. The rock climbing was the start of my misadventure.
For rock climbing, we wore tennis shoes. So I peeled off my wool socks, stuffed them into my hiking boots, and forgot about them. When it was time to hike back to our base camp 3 days later, I pulled out my socks and noticed that they were "moving". As were the interior of my boots. They were covered with maggots--teeming with maggots! The flies had been busy while we were climbing rockfaces. Other people had maggots as well (bootlaces, bandanas, socks) but no one else had them in their boots. I got an empty plastic garbage bag for my boots, tied that to my backpack, and hiked back to camp in my tennis shoes. But that wasn't sustainable because we had another 3-day hike starting the next day.
Fortunately, there was a well with a pump at base camp. So I bathed the heck out of those maggots! I filled the boots with water and dumped them out--and repeated that many times. I scrubbed away with my bandana. And finally (in what was probably a small ethical lapse), I took the bleach from the first aid kit and mixed that with water, poured it into my boots and let it sit overnight. I did discover that these boots really were watertight!
Meanwhile, back at the camp, someone took people's maggot-ridden bootlaces and bandanas and such and boiled them to get rid of the maggots. In our cooking pot. We had rice for dinner that night--I didn't have much of an appetite!
My efforts seemed to pay off. I didn't see any maggots in the boots the next day. I did wear my dark blue hiking socks, figuring it would be easier to see maggots crawling out of the boots that way. Earlier in the course, I had gouged my shin on a jagged branch and it was looking a little infected. I figured that if any maggots did venture upwards then perhaps they would do a little therapeutic wound debridement. I know--gross nursing humor.
Hmm, sounds like this was a "Man on a Mission". You should have told him "Don't go out" there is a "Man-eater" out there and if you do you had better "Watch your Back". You know, since it was Philadelphia you should have gotten the Eagles to smack him in his "Lying Eyes"Wendy Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:54 pmYou will not believe this, Dr. Tom ... there actually IS a musical connection (if not H&O) with the barn, and not a happy one! During a wedding reception one of the band members "took a break" out by the barn ruins, tripped and broke his ankle. He sued us. It ended up being a very expensive fall in (near) Philadelphia for our insurance company.
Interesting! My uncle Vernon, who was chief of infectious disease at Baylor Medical, and at the NIH at one point in his career, (heading up the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Laboratory of Clinical Investigations I believe), gave a talk at the History of Medical Society in 1990 where he told various stories of medical discoveries he experienced during WWII. He was at Omaha Beach on D-Day, and at Utah Beach, treating wounded soldiers. One story involved a soldier who had stepped on a land mine and shattered his foot, and got a battle dressing at the time of the injury. By the time my uncle saw him, they removed the dressing and found "dozens of healthy maggots." He went on: "The wound was clean and healthy. Bone fragments were lying free in the wound. We removed the bone fragments and the maggots manually, following this with irrigation and dusting with powdered sulfadiazine. The patient had little systemic reaction and, clearly, the maggots had performed a successful debridement."DrTom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:19 pmInteresting, though I never had maggot boots (or kinky boots either) I did write and entire article on Maggot Therapy. Gross or not it still has application today. You do have to explain to the patient and family why their bandage might move, but hey, the stink of a necrotic wound resolves in a day or so and you cannot get better microsurgeons than maggots! You used to have to order them from California, and of course they got them to you by flying them - always cracked me up and kept the humor buzzing. After all why shouldn't they "Help Me, Help Me!" (OK, here it comes, I'm ready.....)LadyBird wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:10 pm A memory popped immediately into my head when I first saw BATHE MAGGOT.
Back in the late 80's, I decided to celebrate finishing grad school by doing a 23-day Outward Bound Course in North Carolina. It was fairly primitive: no tents just tarps strung overhead, purifying water from streams, carrying everything on our backs, etc. We had several grueling 3-day hikes, 3 days of whitewater canoeing, 3 days of solo, and 3 days of rock climbing. The rock climbing was the start of my misadventure.
For rock climbing, we wore tennis shoes. So I peeled off my wool socks, stuffed them into my hiking boots, and forgot about them. When it was time to hike back to our base camp 3 days later, I pulled out my socks and noticed that they were "moving". As were the interior of my boots. They were covered with maggots--teeming with maggots! The flies had been busy while we were climbing rockfaces. Other people had maggots as well (bootlaces, bandanas, socks) but no one else had them in their boots. I got an empty plastic garbage bag for my boots, tied that to my backpack, and hiked back to camp in my tennis shoes. But that wasn't sustainable because we had another 3-day hike starting the next day.
Fortunately, there was a well with a pump at base camp. So I bathed the heck out of those maggots! I filled the boots with water and dumped them out--and repeated that many times. I scrubbed away with my bandana. And finally (in what was probably a small ethical lapse), I took the bleach from the first aid kit and mixed that with water, poured it into my boots and let it sit overnight. I did discover that these boots really were watertight!
Meanwhile, back at the camp, someone took people's maggot-ridden bootlaces and bandanas and such and boiled them to get rid of the maggots. In our cooking pot. We had rice for dinner that night--I didn't have much of an appetite!
My efforts seemed to pay off. I didn't see any maggots in the boots the next day. I did wear my dark blue hiking socks, figuring it would be easier to see maggots crawling out of the boots that way. Earlier in the course, I had gouged my shin on a jagged branch and it was looking a little infected. I figured that if any maggots did venture upwards then perhaps they would do a little therapeutic wound debridement. I know--gross nursing humor.
Do you have a link to your article?DrTom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:19 pmInteresting, though I never had maggot boots (or kinky boots either) I did write and entire article on Maggot Therapy. Gross or not it still has application today. You do have to explain to the patient and family why their bandage might move, but hey, the stink of a necrotic wound resolves in a day or so and you cannot get better microsurgeons than maggots! You used to have to order them from California, and of course they got them to you by flying them - always cracked me up and kept the humor buzzing. After all why shouldn't they "Help Me, Help Me!" (OK, here it comes, I'm ready.....)LadyBird wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:10 pm A memory popped immediately into my head when I first saw BATHE MAGGOT.
My efforts seemed to pay off. I didn't see any maggots in the boots the next day. I did wear my dark blue hiking socks, figuring it would be easier to see maggots crawling out of the boots that way. Earlier in the course, I had gouged my shin on a jagged branch and it was looking a little infected. I figured that if any maggots did venture upwards then perhaps they would do a little therapeutic wound debridement. I know--gross nursing humor.
Well the history of “medical maggots” goes back even further than that. During the Civil War many rebel troops were sent to the prison in Elmira, NY. They had bad wounds of course and since they were the “enemy” and there were no Geneva conventions, they were left in their cells to rot while flies covered their festering wounds. At the same time, Union Soldiers were being treated for battle wounds and losing arms and legs to infection. It was only when they shooed the flies from the wounds of the confederates that they saw clean, healing wounds. Turns out that not only do the maggots eat ONLY the dead skin, but their secretions appear to have some stimulatory effect on healing and their movement also seems to assist in blood flow to the areas. I can hear Mother Nature snickering loudly…..HunterX wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:01 pmInteresting! My uncle Vernon, who was chief of infectious disease at Baylor Medical, and at the NIH at one point in his career, (heading up the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Laboratory of Clinical Investigations I believe), gave a talk at the History of Medical Society in 1990 where he told various stories of medical discoveries he experienced during WWII. He was at Omaha Beach on D-Day, and at Utah Beach, treating wounded soldiers. One story involved a soldier who had stepped on a land mine and shattered his foot, and got a battle dressing at the time of the injury. By the time my uncle saw him, they removed the dressing and found "dozens of healthy maggots." He went on: "The wound was clean and healthy. Bone fragments were lying free in the wound. We removed the bone fragments and the maggots manually, following this with irrigation and dusting with powdered sulfadiazine. The patient had little systemic reaction and, clearly, the maggots had performed a successful debridement."DrTom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:19 pmInteresting, though I never had maggot boots (or kinky boots either) I did write and entire article on Maggot Therapy. Gross or not it still has application today. You do have to explain to the patient and family why their bandage might move, but hey, the stink of a necrotic wound resolves in a day or so and you cannot get better microsurgeons than maggots! You used to have to order them from California, and of course they got them to you by flying them - always cracked me up and kept the humor buzzing. After all why shouldn't they "Help Me, Help Me!" (OK, here it comes, I'm ready.....)LadyBird wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:10 pm A memory popped immediately into my head when I first saw BATHE MAGGOT.
Back in the late 80's, I decided to celebrate finishing grad school by doing a 23-day Outward Bound Course in North Carolina. It was fairly primitive: no tents just tarps strung overhead, purifying water from streams, carrying everything on our backs, etc. We had several grueling 3-day hikes, 3 days of whitewater canoeing, 3 days of solo, and 3 days of rock climbing. The rock climbing was the start of my misadventure.
For rock climbing, we wore tennis shoes. So I peeled off my wool socks, stuffed them into my hiking boots, and forgot about them. When it was time to hike back to our base camp 3 days later, I pulled out my socks and noticed that they were "moving". As were the interior of my boots. They were covered with maggots--teeming with maggots! The flies had been busy while we were climbing rockfaces. Other people had maggots as well (bootlaces, bandanas, socks) but no one else had them in their boots. I got an empty plastic garbage bag for my boots, tied that to my backpack, and hiked back to camp in my tennis shoes. But that wasn't sustainable because we had another 3-day hike starting the next day.
Fortunately, there was a well with a pump at base camp. So I bathed the heck out of those maggots! I filled the boots with water and dumped them out--and repeated that many times. I scrubbed away with my bandana. And finally (in what was probably a small ethical lapse), I took the bleach from the first aid kit and mixed that with water, poured it into my boots and let it sit overnight. I did discover that these boots really were watertight!
Meanwhile, back at the camp, someone took people's maggot-ridden bootlaces and bandanas and such and boiled them to get rid of the maggots. In our cooking pot. We had rice for dinner that night--I didn't have much of an appetite!
My efforts seemed to pay off. I didn't see any maggots in the boots the next day. I did wear my dark blue hiking socks, figuring it would be easier to see maggots crawling out of the boots that way. Earlier in the course, I had gouged my shin on a jagged branch and it was looking a little infected. I figured that if any maggots did venture upwards then perhaps they would do a little therapeutic wound debridement. I know--gross nursing humor.
(And that's why I never became a doctor, kids.)
OK -- I'll ask before one of the Toms does ----minimuggle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:43 am This puzzle had so many rabbit hole possibilities......... Who knew there was a film called Anal Domain. Knew it was wrong and when I got the right film I kicked myself.
Dr TomDrTom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:17 pmWell the history of “medical maggots” goes back even further than that. During the Civil War many rebel troops were sent to the prison in Elmira, NY. They had bad wounds of course and since they were the “enemy” and there were no Geneva conventions, they were left in their cells to rot while flies covered their festering wounds. At the same time, Union Soldiers were being treated for battle wounds and losing arms and legs to infection. It was only when they shooed the flies from the wounds of the confederates that they saw clean, healing wounds. Turns out that not only do the maggots eat ONLY the dead skin, but their secretions appear to have some stimulatory effect on healing and their movement also seems to assist in blood flow to the areas. I can hear Mother Nature snickering loudly…..HunterX wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:01 pmInteresting! My uncle Vernon, who was chief of infectious disease at Baylor Medical, and at the NIH at one point in his career, (heading up the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Laboratory of Clinical Investigations I believe), gave a talk at the History of Medical Society in 1990 where he told various stories of medical discoveries he experienced during WWII. He was at Omaha Beach on D-Day, and at Utah Beach, treating wounded soldiers. One story involved a soldier who had stepped on a land mine and shattered his foot, and got a battle dressing at the time of the injury. By the time my uncle saw him, they removed the dressing and found "dozens of healthy maggots." He went on: "The wound was clean and healthy. Bone fragments were lying free in the wound. We removed the bone fragments and the maggots manually, following this with irrigation and dusting with powdered sulfadiazine. The patient had little systemic reaction and, clearly, the maggots had performed a successful debridement."DrTom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:19 pm
Interesting, though I never had maggot boots (or kinky boots either) I did write and entire article on Maggot Therapy. Gross or not it still has application today. You do have to explain to the patient and family why their bandage might move, but hey, the stink of a necrotic wound resolves in a day or so and you cannot get better microsurgeons than maggots! You used to have to order them from California, and of course they got them to you by flying them - always cracked me up and kept the humor buzzing. After all why shouldn't they "Help Me, Help Me!" (OK, here it comes, I'm ready.....)
(And that's why I never became a doctor, kids.)
Oh, and flies in wounds....I am sure that any of the health care people on this forum can tell you that is probably one of the lesser gag reflex things they have seen. Humans are pretty, but not when they are broken.
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Oh, I'm sure maggots were right there with leaches in the annals of medical history. Though I'm now reminded of an episode of Rowan Atkinson's "Blackadder."DrTom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:17 pmWell the history of “medical maggots” goes back even further than that. During the Civil War many rebel troops were sent to the prison in Elmira, NY. They had bad wounds of course and since they were the “enemy” and there were no Geneva conventions, they were left in their cells to rot while flies covered their festering wounds. At the same time, Union Soldiers were being treated for battle wounds and losing arms and legs to infection. It was only when they shooed the flies from the wounds of the confederates that they saw clean, healing wounds. Turns out that not only do the maggots eat ONLY the dead skin, but their secretions appear to have some stimulatory effect on healing and their movement also seems to assist in blood flow to the areas. I can hear Mother Nature snickering loudly…..HunterX wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:01 pmInteresting! My uncle Vernon, who was chief of infectious disease at Baylor Medical, and at the NIH at one point in his career, (heading up the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Laboratory of Clinical Investigations I believe), gave a talk at the History of Medical Society in 1990 where he told various stories of medical discoveries he experienced during WWII. He was at Omaha Beach on D-Day, and at Utah Beach, treating wounded soldiers. One story involved a soldier who had stepped on a land mine and shattered his foot, and got a battle dressing at the time of the injury. By the time my uncle saw him, they removed the dressing and found "dozens of healthy maggots." He went on: "The wound was clean and healthy. Bone fragments were lying free in the wound. We removed the bone fragments and the maggots manually, following this with irrigation and dusting with powdered sulfadiazine. The patient had little systemic reaction and, clearly, the maggots had performed a successful debridement."DrTom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:19 pm
Interesting, though I never had maggot boots (or kinky boots either) I did write and entire article on Maggot Therapy. Gross or not it still has application today. You do have to explain to the patient and family why their bandage might move, but hey, the stink of a necrotic wound resolves in a day or so and you cannot get better microsurgeons than maggots! You used to have to order them from California, and of course they got them to you by flying them - always cracked me up and kept the humor buzzing. After all why shouldn't they "Help Me, Help Me!" (OK, here it comes, I'm ready.....)
(And that's why I never became a doctor, kids.)
Oh, and flies in wounds....I am sure that any of the health care people on this forum can tell you that is probably one of the lesser gag reflex things they have seen. Humans are pretty, but not when they are broken.
Oops - my bad. I guess I do not always have the same reaction to gross stuff. I don't know if that is because of what I do now or the fact that I was a plumber in the US Navy. Either way weak stomachs need not apply.Bob cruise director wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:27 pmDr TomDrTom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:17 pmWell the history of “medical maggots” goes back even further than that. During the Civil War many rebel troops were sent to the prison in Elmira, NY. They had bad wounds of course and since they were the “enemy” and there were no Geneva conventions, they were left in their cells to rot while flies covered their festering wounds. At the same time, Union Soldiers were being treated for battle wounds and losing arms and legs to infection. It was only when they shooed the flies from the wounds of the confederates that they saw clean, healing wounds. Turns out that not only do the maggots eat ONLY the dead skin, but their secretions appear to have some stimulatory effect on healing and their movement also seems to assist in blood flow to the areas. I can hear Mother Nature snickering loudly…..HunterX wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:01 pm
Interesting! My uncle Vernon, who was chief of infectious disease at Baylor Medical, and at the NIH at one point in his career, (heading up the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Laboratory of Clinical Investigations I believe), gave a talk at the History of Medical Society in 1990 where he told various stories of medical discoveries he experienced during WWII. He was at Omaha Beach on D-Day, and at Utah Beach, treating wounded soldiers. One story involved a soldier who had stepped on a land mine and shattered his foot, and got a battle dressing at the time of the injury. By the time my uncle saw him, they removed the dressing and found "dozens of healthy maggots." He went on: "The wound was clean and healthy. Bone fragments were lying free in the wound. We removed the bone fragments and the maggots manually, following this with irrigation and dusting with powdered sulfadiazine. The patient had little systemic reaction and, clearly, the maggots had performed a successful debridement."
(And that's why I never became a doctor, kids.)
Oh, and flies in wounds....I am sure that any of the health care people on this forum can tell you that is probably one of the lesser gag reflex things they have seen. Humans are pretty, but not when they are broken.
Did you send this our just before dinner for a particular reason?
Great to hear this. And hopefully a Buckeye fan as well.
OK, this has been the most frustrating response I have ever posted. I do not use the “Keep me signed in” thing anymore since I had an instance where someone PMed me because it looked like I was online and I think felt I ignored them.LadyBird wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:07 pmDo you have a link to your article?DrTom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:19 pmInteresting, though I never had maggot boots (or kinky boots either) I did write and entire article on Maggot Therapy. Gross or not it still has application today. You do have to explain to the patient and family why their bandage might move, but hey, the stink of a necrotic wound resolves in a day or so and you cannot get better microsurgeons than maggots! You used to have to order them from California, and of course they got them to you by flying them - always cracked me up and kept the humor buzzing. After all why shouldn't they "Help Me, Help Me!" (OK, here it comes, I'm ready.....)LadyBird wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:10 pm A memory popped immediately into my head when I first saw BATHE MAGGOT.
My efforts seemed to pay off. I didn't see any maggots in the boots the next day. I did wear my dark blue hiking socks, figuring it would be easier to see maggots crawling out of the boots that way. Earlier in the course, I had gouged my shin on a jagged branch and it was looking a little infected. I figured that if any maggots did venture upwards then perhaps they would do a little therapeutic wound debridement. I know--gross nursing humor.
Back in the days when medical companies could actually feed you, I went to a nice dinner/lecture. The topic-shown on slides as we were eating--was the therapeutic use of maggots and leeches.
I missed a chance to work with leeches by a couple of hours. I was caring for a head & neck cancer patient postop. The viability of his flap/skin graft was being compromised by a growing hematoma (collection of blood under the skin--or the flap in this case). They ordered therapeutic leeches and were flying them in from NC. They hadn't arrived by the time my shift ended. Fortunately for the patient, he would probably have been unaware of the leeches since he was on a ventilator and sedated.
Sounds like maggots are like Condors and Vultures. They are immune to the bacteria they ingest. Their stomach acids are incredibly strong.DrTom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:17 pmWell the history of “medical maggots” goes back even further than that. During the Civil War many rebel troops were sent to the prison in Elmira, NY. They had bad wounds of course and since they were the “enemy” and there were no Geneva conventions, they were left in their cells to rot while flies covered their festering wounds. At the same time, Union Soldiers were being treated for battle wounds and losing arms and legs to infection. It was only when they shooed the flies from the wounds of the confederates that they saw clean, healing wounds. Turns out that not only do the maggots eat ONLY the dead skin, but their secretions appear to have some stimulatory effect on healing and their movement also seems to assist in blood flow to the areas. I can hear Mother Nature snickering loudly…..HunterX wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:01 pmInteresting! My uncle Vernon, who was chief of infectious disease at Baylor Medical, and at the NIH at one point in his career, (heading up the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Laboratory of Clinical Investigations I believe), gave a talk at the History of Medical Society in 1990 where he told various stories of medical discoveries he experienced during WWII. He was at Omaha Beach on D-Day, and at Utah Beach, treating wounded soldiers. One story involved a soldier who had stepped on a land mine and shattered his foot, and got a battle dressing at the time of the injury. By the time my uncle saw him, they removed the dressing and found "dozens of healthy maggots." He went on: "The wound was clean and healthy. Bone fragments were lying free in the wound. We removed the bone fragments and the maggots manually, following this with irrigation and dusting with powdered sulfadiazine. The patient had little systemic reaction and, clearly, the maggots had performed a successful debridement."DrTom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:19 pm
Interesting, though I never had maggot boots (or kinky boots either) I did write and entire article on Maggot Therapy. Gross or not it still has application today. You do have to explain to the patient and family why their bandage might move, but hey, the stink of a necrotic wound resolves in a day or so and you cannot get better microsurgeons than maggots! You used to have to order them from California, and of course they got them to you by flying them - always cracked me up and kept the humor buzzing. After all why shouldn't they "Help Me, Help Me!" (OK, here it comes, I'm ready.....)
(And that's why I never became a doctor, kids.)
Oh, and flies in wounds....I am sure that any of the health care people on this forum can tell you that is probably one of the lesser gag reflex things they have seen. Humans are pretty, but not when they are broken.
Pigeons are often called "rats with wings". So, perhaps, vultures and condors are "maggots with wings". Although maggots eventually get their wings when they become flies. Or is it when a bell rings?hcbirker wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:45 pmSounds like maggots are like Condors and Vultures. They are immune to the bacteria they ingest. Their stomach acids are incredibly strong.DrTom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:17 pmWell the history of “medical maggots” goes back even further than that. During the Civil War many rebel troops were sent to the prison in Elmira, NY. They had bad wounds of course and since they were the “enemy” and there were no Geneva conventions, they were left in their cells to rot while flies covered their festering wounds. At the same time, Union Soldiers were being treated for battle wounds and losing arms and legs to infection. It was only when they shooed the flies from the wounds of the confederates that they saw clean, healing wounds. Turns out that not only do the maggots eat ONLY the dead skin, but their secretions appear to have some stimulatory effect on healing and their movement also seems to assist in blood flow to the areas. I can hear Mother Nature snickering loudly…..HunterX wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:01 pm
Interesting! My uncle Vernon, who was chief of infectious disease at Baylor Medical, and at the NIH at one point in his career, (heading up the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Laboratory of Clinical Investigations I believe), gave a talk at the History of Medical Society in 1990 where he told various stories of medical discoveries he experienced during WWII. He was at Omaha Beach on D-Day, and at Utah Beach, treating wounded soldiers. One story involved a soldier who had stepped on a land mine and shattered his foot, and got a battle dressing at the time of the injury. By the time my uncle saw him, they removed the dressing and found "dozens of healthy maggots." He went on: "The wound was clean and healthy. Bone fragments were lying free in the wound. We removed the bone fragments and the maggots manually, following this with irrigation and dusting with powdered sulfadiazine. The patient had little systemic reaction and, clearly, the maggots had performed a successful debridement."
(And that's why I never became a doctor, kids.)
Oh, and flies in wounds....I am sure that any of the health care people on this forum can tell you that is probably one of the lesser gag reflex things they have seen. Humans are pretty, but not when they are broken.