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#648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:56 am
by Hector
Prepare to be scared! Here’s a Halloween puzzle by meta-master Chris King, a self-described “trivia guy” who lives in Columbia, South Carolina. You can follow him on Twitter at @ckingsc.

A couple of trick-or-treaters are going around the neighborhood tonight, but they need a map to navigate the shortcuts and pitfalls of their quest. Who is this pair?

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:29 pm
by Eckless
Beamed up. Really nice puzzle!!!

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:23 pm
by Hector
Worthy week 5. One oddness?

Edit: yes there is one weird thing that some of us encountered, but it won't help at all to keep that in mind as you solve. So please don't let that distract you.

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:56 pm
by Andrew Bradburn
Wow. Definitely a week 5. Only second or third time I have gotten one. I got an idea on which way to go, stuck with it, and eventually (eventually!) i ended up with the answer. Very nice puzzle from Mr. King!

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:04 pm
by TMart
Beam me up! Definitely a week 5 - quite a bit going on there. Great concept and great execution.

Hector, only one oddness? I thought the whole thing was pretty odd, but it all came together in the end!

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:07 pm
by MikeM000
I don't have it done yet but I'm dumbfounded and amazed that I appear to be on track for solving a week 5....

Whoo hoo! Beamed up at #18...unbelievable for me!

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:39 pm
by MikeM000
Hector wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:23 pm Worthy week 5. One oddness?
If it's the thing I noticed I might call it an error rather than an oddness. Thankfully there are enough pieces that it shouldn't mess anyone up.

Or maybe I did that one wrong. Who knows?

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:18 pm
by Meg
Now I’m super-intrigued about the error/oddness. Metas are easier to solve when the solver doesn’t make so many mistakes.... Anyway, beam me up whoever’s in the transporter room!

I’ve been pmed with the explanation by a few friendly posters. Thanks. I get it.

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:46 pm
by Laura M
Beam me up, I'm pretty sure! Looking forward to getting a "10" if I don't screw up next week!

I agree about the oddness that may be an error, but possibly it's a legit difference that I can't elaborate on...

Update: On the board, and I got my "10", woot! I misremembered and was thinking I would only be at 9 after today, so bonus!

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:55 pm
by stmv
Woo-hoo, on the board already. This one took a fair amount of work to get, but for once it was (mostly) not wasted work, I went down relatively few rabbit holes before getting the answer. Pretty damn clever.

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:32 pm
by oldjudge
Neat puzzle, but thank goodness there are no months with six Fridays.

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:26 pm
by ChrisKochmanski
Now that was SOMETHING!

My compliments to Chris King.

Beam me up!

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:52 pm
by Cindy
oldjudge wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:32 pm Neat puzzle, but thank goodness there are no months with six Fridays.
Don’t speak too soon......it is 2020! Someone may change the calendar.

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:01 pm
by FrankieHeck
Well the good news is I'm *almost* done with the grid, so I can start on the meta soon.

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:33 am
by Orsys
Done!! Well, that was exhausting. A week 5 to be sure.

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:41 am
by hashbrown
Could someone PM me so I can talk through what I currently have/where I'm trying to go with the puzzle?

E: had some confirmation on what I'm doing and maybe got somewhere to go now:)
E2: Big thanks to Orsys, that was a real rollercoaster of a puzzle!

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:24 pm
by Djquimby
Holy crap

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:18 pm
by ky-mike
Grid done. I think I understand the meta concept, but not yet seeing an answer. If anyone who has submitted would like to critique my thinking, I would appreciate it.

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:10 pm
by lbray53
Asked for some help which saved me from a week of frustration. I was committed to a method that could not proceed. Many thanks to my clever nudger for preserving the AHA for me.

Re: #648 - "Rise and Fall"

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:07 pm
by cisalope
I have an answer of who the trick or treaters are, but am not entirely sure they are right...one makes more sense than the other. I'd love for someone to PM me so I can run those answers by to check. Thanks!