XWord Muggles Forum

Frenchy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:45 pm One space after a period! Early in my schooling I learned it was 2, then the expectation became 1, now Word flags 2 as a mistake.

I think you can adjust Word not to flag 2 as a mistake if it bugs you.

Joe Ross wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:58 pm

edot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:50 pm Not 100% confident in the answer I have but I think it's the right one...If anyone wants to check theirs with mine to confirm we're on the same page I would appreciate it!

The meta is 100% clear, but you propose a novel way of solving!

Good luck to everyone!

Ever since the MONOTONOUS meta a few months back, I never know anymore

juliet wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:50 pm

Wendy Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:47 pm

MarkL wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:45 pm Have been a two-spacer for quite a while, but starting to understand the other point of view. Some fonts and kerning make two spaces looks too wide. I really don't care if it 'dates' me.

I have bigger gripes with other spelling, grammar and punctuation crimes and misdemeanors.

Don't get me started. I'm editing a book by an academic who uses words like "pedestalize" instead of simply "put on a pedestal."

Strunk and White (still used in freshman writing courses!) was clear on "izing." Two spaces, learned about the same time in typing class, will probably always look right to me.

It's taken me a while to unlearn the two spaces I learned in high school and used for decades thereafter. It looks OK if you're one of the 8 peple in the US still using a typewriter. If you use two spaces in Microsoft Word it comes out looking too big, WordPerfect does a much better job.

As for Strunk and White, you can look up the many criticisms and see where it is self-contradictory and sometimes just wrong. But it's still very useful. Just don't think of it as a Bible.

On shore!

You all take care,

Bird Lives wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:51 pm
As for Strunk and White, you can look up the many criticisms and see where it is self-contradictory and sometimes just wrong. But it's still very useful. Just don't think of it as a Bible.

It is still very useful. And even Fowler has its lapses, along with much good advice.

Grid is filled; no clue where to go with the meta.
This is usually not a good sign for me. I'm going to just put it away until later in the weekend. Maybe it will look different then....or maybe not.

I'm on the beach. Really cool meta.

Wendy Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:47 pm

MarkL wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:45 pm Have been a two-spacer for quite a while, but starting to understand the other point of view. Some fonts and kerning make two spaces looks too wide. I really don't care if it 'dates' me.

I have bigger gripes with other spelling, grammar and punctuation crimes and misdemeanors.

Don't get me started. I'm editing a book by an academic who uses words like "pedestalize" instead of simply "put on a pedestal."

Did you correct his creation of words? we see and hear "ize" words made up all the time. And other creations.

Not sure why we're talking about spaces, but ... I WAS "two spaces til death do we part" but I've recently changed to one. Sorry Mrs. Pesche (9th grade typing, ~1983)...


And no clue on the meta.

Bird Lives wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:51 pm

juliet wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:50 pm

Wendy Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:47 pm

Don't get me started. I'm editing a book by an academic who uses words like "pedestalize" instead of simply "put on a pedestal."

Strunk and White (still used in freshman writing courses!) was clear on "izing." Two spaces, learned about the same time in typing class, will probably always look right to me.

It's taken me a while to unlearn the two spaces I learned in high school and used for decades thereafter. It looks OK if you're one of the 8 peple in the US still using a typewriter. If you use two spaces in Microsoft Word it comes out looking too big, WordPerfect does a much better job.

As for Strunk and White, you can look up the many criticisms and see where it is self-contradictory and sometimes just wrong. But it's still very useful. Just don't think of it as a Bible.

So...one space for me based one the style guide my employer used on my first assignment; it stuck for me.

I studied Williams in college and therefore trained to eliminate "nominalizations" (turning a verb into a noun). I don't think he addressed verb-izations, but when I read "pedastalize" I want to laugh out loud. I'm not the least surprised that an academic invented such a wonderful non-sensical word.

I heard Ted Kaczynski was a Strunk and White adherent, so I always figured it was best to avoid it.

TPS wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:08 pm I feel like I am onshore - could just be a mirage. I feel like what I found could only yield one answer but am too tired right now to see why I am missing part of it. Maybe later or tomorrow.

Yeah - I’m not onshore. Oh well.

Two spaces after a period.

Yes Oxford comma.

Grid done.

Still working on meta. I was guessing it had something to do with one of the clues, but that seems too obvious based on what everyone here is saying. Might be on the right track but it just takes another step, not sure yet. It is Gaffney though, probably harder than I think.

Hugglety, mugglety,
Solving with confidence,
Tackling the meta and
Working it out,

Wishing my answer were
Incontrovertible—
Happy to find one, but
Still, I have doubt.

I think I'd better sit on it a while and reconsider before submitting my entry.

TPS wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:08 pm I feel like I am onshore - could just be a mirage. I feel like what I found could only yield one answer but am too tired right now to see why I am missing part of it. Maybe later or tomorrow.

My feeling about it is a 59A of your statement!

I read that article about spaces today. It sums up my interactions with my children about the subject. I finally gave up the extra space a few years ago. It’s tough to break the habit when one learned to type on a typewriter!

I’m still at sea. Grid is finished. I have some ideas that I will think about this weekend. In the meantime, I’m enjoying a chilled glass of Pinot Grigio with Isaac.

Done and, well, pretty sure I'm done.

43A is a new one for me. 57A, too.

TFTXWD

One. Space. We’re not using typewriters anymore. I expect many will hate, but we are when we are.

Ashore.

The uses a mechanism similar to one in a puzzle from the distant past. If I were a newbie, if I hadn’t learned that this was a thing to look for, I wouldn’t have solved this one so quickly, or maybe not at all.

boharr wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:54 pm

MarkL wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:45 pm Have been a two-spacer for quite a while, but starting to understand the other point of view. Some fonts and kerning make two spaces looks too wide. I really don't care if it 'dates' me.

I have bigger gripes with other spelling, grammar and punctuation crimes and misdemeanors.

Not an Oxford comma guy I see.

Just tired, distracted, typing on the phone, and rusty! Cheers!

Solved. One space but two before zip codes