"From Top to Bottom" - November 20, 2020

A place to discuss the weekly Wall Street Journal Crossword Puzzle Contest, starting every Thursday around 4:00 p.m. Eastern time. Please do not post any answers or hints before the contest deadline which is midnight Sunday Eastern time.
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NuYear68
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Re: "From Top to Bottom" - November 20, 2020

#181

Post by NuYear68 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:41 am

Completed the grid on Thursday, had the day get away from me on Friday, and then woke up this morning with an "aha". Solved, submitted and ashore.

Stay well!
Paul

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dk letter
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#182

Post by dk letter » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:47 am

Safely ashore - an easy swim this week!

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KscX
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#183

Post by KscX » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:05 am

On the shore! Always exhilarating, but now I’m obligated to move on to less fun weekend tasks. Note to self: morning solves have a little let-down...

What will happen for a puzzle next week? They don’t take a holiday break do they?

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Bob cruise director
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#184

Post by Bob cruise director » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:10 am

This coming week, the contest will come out on Thursday as always because the WSJ is published on Friday. I may have to dance around Thanksgiving dinner and risk the wrath of "she who must be obeyed" to open the topic as I don't know when we will be having dinner. No guarantees as to exactly when the contest will come up on the wsj.com page

So it is the same schedule as always.
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HoldThatThought
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#185

Post by HoldThatThought » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:16 am

There are few things more frustrating than reading about how easy a meta is, and seeing nothing at all. I'm sure I'm staring it right in the face, but I don't see a thing.

Sigh.

I've looked at anagrams, overlapping words, repeated letter strings, words that read from top to bottom, exchanging letters at the top for letters at the bottom, interchangeable clues, 'before-and-after' type constructions, other grid entries that might fit the clues, on and on, and this is "Easy". Pshaw.

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ImOnToo
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#186

Post by ImOnToo » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:23 am

I’m on, too! 🏖

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KayW
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#187

Post by KayW » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:37 am

Bob cruise director wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:10 am
This coming week, the contest will come out on Thursday as always because the WSJ is published on Friday. I may have to dance around Thanksgiving dinner and risk the wrath of "she who must be obeyed" to open the topic as I don't know when we will be having dinner. No guarantees as to exactly when the contest will come up on the wsj.com page

So it is the same schedule as always.
LOL so there's another advantage to being quarantined alone on Thanksgiving - perhaps I'll have an edge in making page one next week! I just hope this coming week's WSJCC will be easier than this week's 3 MGWCC...

Bob, I can open a topic (at least I THINK I can, technically speaking. I will be here!) if that will make your home life easier.

And I am already safely on shore and submitted this week, but I'm contemplating a brief swim back to the ship... I see Isaac is serving quite a feast! Thanks, Brian :)

(and if you don't see it, as I did not at first, you may need to do a hard refresh on this page).

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#188

Post by Tom Shea » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:56 am

Hanging with Isaac for the nth time in a row.

I wonder if they'll give me a personalized bar stool, like they do at the Royal Hawaiian's Mai Tai bar?
Rufus T. Firefly

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#189

Post by boharr » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:57 am

HoldThatThought wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:16 am
There are few things more frustrating than reading about how easy a meta is, and seeing nothing at all. I'm sure I'm staring it right in the face, but I don't see a thing.

Sigh.

I've looked at anagrams, overlapping words, repeated letter strings, words that read from top to bottom, exchanging letters at the top for letters at the bottom, interchangeable clues, 'before-and-after' type constructions, other grid entries that might fit the clues, on and on, and this is "Easy". Pshaw.
The first (of many) tips for meta solving: Ignore those who week after week say it's easy. It rarely is.

jimbo1
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#190

Post by jimbo1 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:13 am

Ashore in record time for me.
College Football ahead, uninterrupted!

selnouveau
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#191

Post by selnouveau » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:27 am

Ashore in record time for me as well, after weeks of being 15A.

Long time solver/muggles forum reader, first time poster!

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#192

Post by Bob cruise director » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:34 am

selnouveau wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:27 am
Ashore in record time for me as well, after weeks of being 15A.

Long time solver/muggles forum reader, first time poster!
welcome to the muggle family.
Bob Stevens
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Schmeel
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#193

Post by Schmeel » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:46 am

Ashore!

RichA2
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#194

Post by RichA2 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:48 am

On shore, for the first time in weeks. Thanks to Matt for providing a puzzle whose solution is both attainable and entertaining.

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#195

Post by Dplass » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:52 am

DrTom wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:28 am
Well it seems that I am in extremely good company on the ship. As I have said so many times before, the ones that everyone seems to say "WOW that was easy", trap me in my cabin and make me go down with the ship. I had all these good ideas but everything yields a letter salad that I cannot toss or even dress. Lettuce just say that so far this is beeting me, maybe because Tomato much last night but oil keep trying my asalt and pepper it with attempts hoping that I don't get carroted (when God gives you letter salad make salad puns!)
Orange you glad you have people here to talk to? I hope you can chard a course to shore.

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#196

Post by EVJ » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:03 pm

ASHORE! Finally. One just needs to do as the clues instruct.
Good grief.

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Bob cruise director
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#197

Post by Bob cruise director » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:08 pm

Good Saturday morning muggles.

First a great welcome to our newest muggles - HoldThatThought, Olof, and selnouveau. Always great to have more muggles.

This meta is definitely easier if you have been doing these for a while so if you are relatively new, take heart that this and any of these that are easy for some may be challenging for others. Do not get discouraged. The best practices for hints, which we call nudges, can be found a couple of places on this blog. One is under Come Aboard - FAQ's-Community/Solving Resources and another is Under the Acapulco Lounge - Muggle nudge culture. Everyone has their opinion on nudges so read what is written and form your own.

We have a very crowded shore with 145 socially distanced muggles on it and 5 others keeping Isaac company on the ship.

On the ship are
SewYoung
escapeartist
Tom Shea
DrTom
and HoldThatThought

On the shore are
Al
C=64
Wendy
Kay
btskptkl
Dannyvee
Eric P
Bath A
Beth T
Beth C
Jean
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Alan H
joequavis
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Heidi
spotter
norrin2
Georgall
Meg
oldjudge
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Cap'n Rick
Tmart
Dave C
michaelm
Gman
ky-mike
Jim and Anita
paige1
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Scott M
edot
jace54
Jack
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joe
Bird Lives
LesY
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dplass
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Chris
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Guy L
streroto
moi
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Rita and George
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Trey and Marion
Inca
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ADS
Kas
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Joes
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JimJim
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Mike H
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Jud
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Peter
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Ed S
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Cindy N
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Amy
Olof
Andrew B
SusieG
NuYear68
dk letter
KscX
jimbo1
ImOnToo
selnouveau
Schmeel
RichA2
and EVJ

Good luck to all winning the mug and stay safe
Bob Stevens
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Annabelle
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#198

Post by Annabelle » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:16 pm

Joining the shore crowd! First time off the boat in several weeks, so happy to be on dry land! Or not so dry. May I have a mimosa, please?

PJM
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#199

Post by PJM » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:19 pm

Bob cruise director wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:10 am
This coming week, the contest will come out on Thursday as always because the WSJ is published on Friday. I may have to dance around Thanksgiving dinner and risk the wrath of "she who must be obeyed" to open the topic as I don't know when we will be having dinner. No guarantees as to exactly when the contest will come up on the wsj.com page

So it is the same schedule as always.
Love the Rumpole reference!

Safely ashore here with Jamaican coffee at the moment. I'll have a Bordeaux from Pomeroy's Wine Bar as evening approaches.

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Mister Squawk
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#200

Post by Mister Squawk » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:21 pm

Ashore.

When I'm having trouble, the first thing I (should) do is check the difficulty rating here. Wasted a lot of time making this waaaaaaaay more complicated than it was.

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