"Just A Step More" - October 23, 2020

A place to discuss the weekly Wall Street Journal Crossword Puzzle Contest, starting every Thursday around 4:00 p.m. Eastern time. Please do not post any answers or hints before the contest deadline which is midnight Sunday Eastern time.
Locked
JeanneC
Posts: 623
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:25 am
Location: Florida

#261

Post by JeanneC »

Not sure but submitting an answer. Looks like it’s right. It doesn’t contain that sense of Gaffney elegance, though. Mentally I went over other Gaffney puzzles I remembered and came up with something. Will see in about 30 minutes whether it’s the right something. Good luck all.
“I cannot and will not cut my conscience to fit this year’s fashions”. Lillian Hellman
User avatar
KscX
Posts: 234
Joined: Sat May 02, 2020 12:09 pm
Location: Charlotte, NC

#262

Post by KscX »

An 11th hour swim to shore after someone nudged me off the boat. Many thanks and I will not submit.
User avatar
TPS
Posts: 721
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:19 pm
Location: Florida

#263

Post by TPS »

This is the note I made in Word once I realized that I had figured out the method. Unfortunately, initially I typed an (E) for the first part so I had EMELL - and it took me a good 10 minutes to realize my mistake during which time I assumed there must be a 3rd step before realizing it was SMELL which is funny because when I first read the prompt I decided my Hail Mary was going to be one of the 5 senses.

Step 1 Step 2
CHEERIEST (ERIE) 5 – GREAT LAKES – HURON (S) (4D)
INDOCHINE (DOC) 7 – SEVEN DWARVES - SNEEZY (M) (32A)
SORRY TO HEAR THAT (EARTH) 8 – PLANETS - MARS (E) (24A)
APENNINES (PENN) 8 – IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS - YALE (L) (56A)
FLUSTERED (LUST) 7 – DEADLY SINS GREED (L) (49D)
Last edited by TPS on Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:08 am, edited 1 time in total.
Martin
Posts: 48
Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:20 pm

#264

Post by Martin »

RED (one of the 7 colors of the rainbow) was my rabbit hole for a while. But my LUST won out in the end.
User avatar
TPS
Posts: 721
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:19 pm
Location: Florida

#265

Post by TPS »

Martin wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:07 am RED (one of the 7 colors of the rainbow) was my rabbit hole for a while. But my LUST won out in the end.
A lot of people had RED and a lot of people had HEART at first. I thought more people would struggle with PENN because not everyone knows Ivy League schools.
User avatar
TPS
Posts: 721
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:19 pm
Location: Florida

#266

Post by TPS »

The second step for this puzzle was also basically the same 2nd step in Mike Shenk's "Less and Less" (DEDUCT) puzzle and then the following week in Matt Gaffney's "We're in this together" (COCO CHANEL) Aug 21 & Aug 28 of this year.
User avatar
ImOnToo
Posts: 445
Joined: Thu May 02, 2019 5:28 pm
Location: Texas

#267

Post by ImOnToo »

I was so fixated on the clue for 52 Down followed by 60 Down. You Castle in chess before you "do anything else" with the king and castle in chess.
Then saw "Rois" (Kings?) at 5 Down.
I tried SO may iterations of moving either two to the right or three to the left of the (x) letters in each clue. I was WAY down a rabbit hole that my mind wouldn't release me from!
Last edited by ImOnToo on Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:32 am, edited 1 time in total.
Konnie
Martin
Posts: 48
Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:20 pm

#268

Post by Martin »

TPS wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:12 am
Martin wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:07 am RED (one of the 7 colors of the rainbow) was my rabbit hole for a while. But my LUST won out in the end.
A lot of people had RED and a lot of people had HEART at first. I thought more people would struggle with PENN because not everyone knows Ivy League schools.
Mike Shenk is famously a PENN alum, so I wouldn't miss that in a puzzle he edited.
User avatar
TMart
Posts: 820
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:13 am
Location: Malvern, PA

#269

Post by TMart »

I had the alumni advantage on this one (and I happened to be wearing a Penn shirt when I solved) so I got it pretty quickly. PENN and LUST jumped out at me (for some reason, those two words are linked in my brain from my younger days :lol: ) and the rest followed pretty easily from there (although the ENZYMES/SNEEZY anagram took a while to find.)

This was a nice combo of some of Matt’s techniques- he’s done ordered sets and (anagram +1) lots of times before.

I was worried that after finding SMELL there would be another (anagram +1) step in the grid somewhere, since taste, sight and touch and sound all have five letters as well, (and TASTE + 1 is pretty close to CASTLE, as well as SIGHT + 1 and ITSHIM) but I got comfortable after searching all the six-letter words that there was “just another step” after the initial “aha” and no pageantry going on.
Laura M
Posts: 1393
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:49 am

#270

Post by Laura M »

Great first step, but after that there were so many different ways it could go... most of them involving anagrams, which I am not great with. 30 other possible words to look for, anywhere the grid or the clues, scrambled or not, probably with an extra letter, and that was only the most likely set of possibilities. I actually thought that this would too much of a slog to be in a WSJ meta, so I wasted a bunch of time looking for other alternatives. For example, I considered whether "a step more" might mean an extra member of each set: Pluto was an obvious one, but I also found that Lake Champlain had been considered a Great Lake for a short period of time, and there was an 8th original dwarf called Stealthy. But there weren't obvious candidates for the other two and it wasn't spelling anything, so I finally held my nose and dived into the anagrams. Eventually I found one, and then one more, and I knew I was on the right track, but it still took a while. So, not my favorite puzzle, but the first part was cool and the second part seems to have been not as much of an obstacle for other solvers as it was for me :-)

The odd thing that I noticed (after getting all this practice on anagrams) was that SMELL plus an I anagrams to 12D MILLES. I couldn't tell if that was supposed to be a confirmation, or just a coincidence?
User avatar
JAQT
Posts: 139
Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:55 pm
Location: California

#271

Post by JAQT »

I just want to acknowledge TPS, publicly, for gentle, patient and encouraging nudges, with exactly the right amount of tiny details to get you going.

IMO, as a learning experience, expertly given nudges are better than waiting for the full answer, since at least you learn how to work out some part of the puzzle.
JustAQuickThought
Jaye
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:26 pm

#272

Post by Jaye »

I came up with another of the senses as my answer. I saw that ERIE appears as consecutive letters in cheERIEst, DOC in inDOChine, EARTH in sorry to hEAR THat, etc. So I took one more step using the very same mechanism to extract the consecutive letters TASTE that appear in the puzzle title: jusT A STEp more.

It seemed legitimate to me!
Plymouthrock
Posts: 190
Joined: Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:12 am
Location: Richmond, Va

#273

Post by Plymouthrock »

Well, I submitted salsa, the dance, (part of a set).
I added “one more step” to the steps in the grid, taking the letters from those blocks blackened by creating the step. Brother!!!!!was pretty pleased with my answer and myself.
User avatar
Joe Ross
Moderator
Posts: 5072
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:46 am
Location: Cincinnati

#274

Post by Joe Ross »

20201023 WSJCC Just a Step More.gif
Whole blood, platelets, or plasma: Donate 4 in 2024

PLATELET 𝗱𝗼𝗻𝗼𝗿𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗮𝗿𝗲.
𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝘀 ENORMOUS 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗮𝗿𝗲:
𝟰𝟬% 𝗽𝗲𝗱𝗶𝗮𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗰,
𝟯𝟬% 𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗵, 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗰,
𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗿 & 𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘂𝗺𝗮. 𝗣𝗟𝗘𝗔𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗛𝗔𝗥𝗘!
User avatar
Joe Ross
Moderator
Posts: 5072
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:46 am
Location: Cincinnati

#275

Post by Joe Ross »

20201023 WSJCC Just a Step More solution.gif

So many rabbit holes with what seemed to be 2/5ths to 4/5ths validity. There were at least 5 where the AHA! was halfway exclaimed, only to fall short. This weekend was a riot of color.
Whole blood, platelets, or plasma: Donate 4 in 2024

PLATELET 𝗱𝗼𝗻𝗼𝗿𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗮𝗿𝗲.
𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝘀 ENORMOUS 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗮𝗿𝗲:
𝟰𝟬% 𝗽𝗲𝗱𝗶𝗮𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗰,
𝟯𝟬% 𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗵, 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗰,
𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗿 & 𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘂𝗺𝗮. 𝗣𝗟𝗘𝗔𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗛𝗔𝗥𝗘!
User avatar
Streroto
Posts: 781
Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:24 pm
Location: Newtown Square, PA

#276

Post by Streroto »

As always, extraordinarily clever. Again would not have gotten there without a little help from my friends. Did not see either TASTE or SMELL (in MILLES) thought in retrospect the latter grid entry should have screamed “look at me” given it’s unusual nature.

Stay well all
User avatar
CPJohnson
Posts: 1091
Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:38 pm
Location: Kingsport, TN

#277

Post by CPJohnson »

TPS wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:16 am The second step for this puzzle was also basically the same 2nd step in Mike Shenk's "Less and Less" (DEDUCT) puzzle and then the following week in Matt Gaffney's "We're in this together" (COCO CHANEL) Aug 21 & Aug 28 of this year.
And the first step was like the puzzle from 10-28-16, THREE OF A KIND (numbers indicated sets).
Cynthia
User avatar
CPJohnson
Posts: 1091
Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:38 pm
Location: Kingsport, TN

#278

Post by CPJohnson »

At first, I failed to think of the 7 dwarfs....I thought maybe the set was seven notes of the musical scale (do, re, mi.....) or the 7 continents (Asia somehow related to Indochine...I know, I know, it's not like the others.) Then, seeing anagrammed Huron crossing Erie, I assumed the other "finds" would be grid words that crossed Doc, Penn, etc. They weren't, of course. But Daughter saw the light; she reached shore first.
Cynthia
User avatar
eagle1279
Posts: 309
Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:00 pm
Location: Indianapolis

#279

Post by eagle1279 »

Well, I had ERIE (as a Great Lake), but then had CHIN, HEART, NINE and LUSTER (the final letters of which are ENTER, which of course was meaningless). Congrats to those who could SEE the correct words and worked out the rest, I ENVY your SUPERIOR puzzling skills and I feel DOPEY for not getting it. :roll:
ADS
Posts: 82
Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:57 pm

#280

Post by ADS »

I got hung up on the first letters of the categories which anagram to D-PLUS (dwarfs, planets, lakes, universities, sins). And I thought it was too coincidental that the clue for 20-across was so similar to the puzzle title (overlap of “more”) and the answer to 20-Across was PLUS, which was so similar to my anagram. It seemed to indicate to me that I should start with the second letter of those words (i.e., “a step” over from the first letter). The second letter of those categories anagrams to “in-law.” Obviously that is hyphenated, which made me hesitate for a long while, but i was running out of time and it seemed to fit the “part of a set” criteria enough so I went with it. Congrats to all who got the right answer to this tough one.
Locked