#79 - "Go Back to the Beginning"

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#79 - "Go Back to the Beginning"

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Post by hashbrown » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:19 am

This metapuzzle has two answers, both of which have something in common with several entries in the grid. One is a well-known animated movie; the other is closely related to the first theme entry.
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#2

Post by ChrisKochmanski » Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:11 pm

Got the animated movie.

As for the second answer: ???

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#3

Post by oldjudge » Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:38 pm

Both answers confirmed— amazing puzzle by Peter!

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#4

Post by Meg » Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:53 pm

What oldjudge said. Took all day!

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Post by boharr » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:18 pm

Got the movie as well.

EDIT: And now the second answer too.

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Post by LesY » Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:30 pm

I think I have both. And am hoping I saw all the texture there was to see here. Really really good.

Edit: I had both answers correct but missed one part of the elegance in the mechanism. I’ll reiterate my take that this one is quite excellent.
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#7

Post by ChrisKochmanski » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:13 pm

Got the animated movie yesterday. And, finally, the second answer today. Another solver gently nudged me on Part Deux.

Very clever puzzle. I've never seen a mechanism quite like it. And, yes, all that texture. Wow! I'm amazed that it works as well as it does.

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#8

Post by TMart » Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:25 am

Got the movie - nice one! Now back to MMMM :( ???

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#9

Post by RPardoe » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:26 pm

Helpful nudges got me thinking (finally) down the proper path.
Both solutions found and submitted.

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#10

Post by Hector » Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:47 pm

Tough, and very nice.

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Post by Al Sisti » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:23 am

Looks like my PGW unsolved streak is 2 in a row; that's never happened before.

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Post by Beth Tyrpin » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:46 am

I really wish PGW would implement nudge day. I hate missing out on the solve because they are usually so good. Last week I was focused on using the vowels. Totally missed the ghost connection.

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Post by pgw » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:52 am


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Post by Al Sisti » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:25 am

I didn't solve it, but man, this is *vintage* PGW!

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Post by ChrisKochmanski » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:13 am

Yes, nudge day for PGWCC would be nice. Though I got into some fun PMing with other solvers, exchanging our own nudges.

Now reading Peter G's explanation, I'm seeing how this puzzle was even MORE textured than I thought. I surmised (with the help of nudgers) the two solutions just from the letters, not from the further reversing and dropping of these letters intended.

Wow!

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Post by Hector » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:17 am

I agree, the double-answer magic and the role of the intermediate pieces like LEAVE are so cool. The idea of moving ends of entries to the beginning actually came to me in my sleep. I awoke confident that that must be it, but then the apparent themers did not cooperate. Returning to it later I just happened to notice the word+letter entries.

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#17

Post by TMart » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:55 am

Huh - I got WALL-E, but only because I missed MANU as a themer. Oh well, half is better than none!

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Post by pgw » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:15 pm

Hector wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:17 am
... the apparent themers did not cooperate.
What were the apparent themers?

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Post by Hector » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:36 pm

I just meant the longest entries: the six 8-letter ones, or just the verticals. Nothing else themey about them ever emerged (unlike this month's Muller, where so much emerged -- for many of us -- about the long entries that distracted from the important ones).

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#20

Post by Laura M » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:59 pm

Kicking myself that I didn't get the first step, but the rest of it was a Kas 5 for me anyway. If I had gotten that first step, I probably would have submitted Wall-E without any idea of the real path!

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