"Past and Present" - December 24, 2020

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Re: "Past and Present" December 24, 2020

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Post by Thurman8er » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:47 pm

Ashore!

Go do the WaPo Sunday meta by Evan Birholz if you haven't already. Absolutely amazing!

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#322

Post by ErikThor » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:05 pm

made it to shore and submitted.

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Post by Bob cruise director » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:15 pm

Our final count for this week is 7 on the ship and 193 on the shore.

Making it to the shore this afternoon are
WSJosh
Vincent
Matthew M
Scott M
rexthree
Joedbee
the Thurman8er
Hidden in 3D
and Erik Thor

Good luck to all winning the mug - long odds this week

Happy New Year - remember the contest comes out on WEDNESDAY at 4 pm.
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#324

Post by Notbitter » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:23 pm

Onshore, after a Sunday start.

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#325

Post by cbarbee002 » Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:28 pm

Thinking this applies to several muggles. Two out of three for me ain't bad. :-)
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#326

Post by Franklin.Bluth » Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:32 pm

Ashore...bullied my way to the 12-letter word first, based solely on noticing things that seemed a tad too coincidental, couldn't quite believe I was correct, and then saw the meta in hindsight after staring at my answer word.

So it's a win, but I still wish I'd have noticed the actual mechanism first (i.e. means to an end rather than vice versa).

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#327

Post by cpelster » Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:39 pm

Completed the grid on Thurs. Saw a few pathways. Finally got around to solving the meta today. Happy New Year!

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#328

Post by michaelm » Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:05 pm

MajordomoTom wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:58 pm
DrTom wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:57 pm
DBMiller wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:05 pm


You can't compete with the master. If you use cross words, he'll Punjab you with a right across and knock you down. So grid/gird your loins and prepare for battle. We have no clue how to defeat him.
I'm not going to Punjab you, that would have been yesterday! Instead I might just invite you to the Dehli so we could get pastrami all of this (he said with a ryely). I mean I don't want you to think I am a sauerkraut loser!
you slaw me.
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#329

Post by Colin » Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:30 pm

Bob cruise director wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:12 pm
A belated Sunday report as I was attempting to replace my daughter's kitchen sink faucet - unsuccessful as that nut that holds it on was rusted forever and needs someone with a sawsall to cut the faucet off.
I had same thing back in the summer with my bathroom faucets. In the end, it was easier to disconnect the plumbing (h/c and waste), lift out the sink (with faucets) after cutting the silicone seal and then saw through the nuts on the workbench. Saved a few bandaids on my head too!
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#330

Post by Joe Ross » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:00 am

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#331

Post by Joe Ross » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:00 am

FRANKINCENSE

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#332

Post by PJM » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:18 am

Just curious -- are there others who wasted time looking for answers beneath the ELDER and LIME trees?

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#333

Post by LadyBird » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:31 am

What does the "Past and" part of the title have to do with anything--that was a major obstacle to my solving?

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#334

Post by FrankH » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:41 am

It was a gift in the past?

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#335

Post by DrTom » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:26 am

cbarbee002 wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:28 pm
Thinking this applies to several muggles. Two out of three for me ain't bad. :-)

ThatswhatIdo.jpg
Well I don't golf so 1.5 out of three (I know some things, not enough to solve MGWCC but some)

Perhaps I can drink enough bourbon to bring it up to 2?

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#336

Post by yourpalsal » Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:53 am

I was stuck looking under the ELDER tree, at AVON, which was the only clue with “past” in it, as well as the 6 words with “present” in the clue. Those included that FOR TOY intersection that seemed like 40. Just another Watership Down full of rabbit holes...

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#337

Post by Bob Kerfuffle » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:26 am

SPOILER ALERT -- THIS COMMENT CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR THE NEVILLE FOGARTY 12/24/20 "HOME ALONE" PUZZLE --

As previously noted, this WSJ puzzle uses a mechanism fairly common this time of year, including in the 12/24 Neville Fogarty "Home Alone," which I had just solved the same day. But one integral part of the answer to the Fogarty puzzle involves a "LIME" tree, and by golly there is a LIME tree in the WSJ also! It doesn't enter into the solution, but as PJM notes above, it's there. (I wasn't bothered by the ELDER, as it s a Down, not an Across.) And that LIME signals a LEAD anchor in the bottom right corner, which was why I was "plumb" exhausted swimming to shore!

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#338

Post by Scraps » Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:37 am

Franklin.Bluth wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:32 pm
Ashore...bullied my way to the 12-letter word first, based solely on noticing things that seemed a tad too coincidental, couldn't quite believe I was correct, and then saw the meta in hindsight after staring at my answer word.

So it's a win, but I still wish I'd have noticed the actual mechanism first (i.e. means to an end rather than vice versa).
Same here. The answer occurred to me when I realized one of the famous presents from the past had twelve letters.

“I wonder if that’s hidden in the puzzle somewhere.”

It was.

I found nine of the twelve letters before I noticed the mechanism.

It felt almost like cheating—but not enough to keep me from submitting my entry.

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#339

Post by MikeM000 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:14 am

PJM wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:18 am
Just curious -- are there others who wasted time looking for answers beneath the ELDER and LIME trees?
Not a lot of time, but I was wondering for a minute how to get a 12-letter word (and not phrase) out of, say, AVON COSMETIC.

To add to it, I think that day's NYT had HEATH in a similar down-entry position that was one of the last words I had filled in and was fresh in my mind; I fruitlessly searched for it in my just-completed WSJ grid.

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#340

Post by Bob cruise director » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:43 am

Colin wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:30 pm
Bob cruise director wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:12 pm
A belated Sunday report as I was attempting to replace my daughter's kitchen sink faucet - unsuccessful as that nut that holds it on was rusted forever and needs someone with a sawsall to cut the faucet off.
I had same thing back in the summer with my bathroom faucets. In the end, it was easier to disconnect the plumbing (h/c and waste), lift out the sink (with faucets) after cutting the silicone seal and then saw through the nuts on the workbench. Saved a few bandaids on my head too!
I watched a couple of videos and laughed. First video the water shutoffs actually worked which they never do. And the nut twisted off by hand. HA

Second The guy drilled out the nut from below.
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