"From Top to Bottom" - November 20, 2020

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Re: "From Top to Bottom" - November 20, 2020

#241

Post by Grover » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:50 pm

Finally joining the shore horde. Looks like it is five deep at the bar!

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#242

Post by mitchel674 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:32 pm

On shore for the first time this month.

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Colin
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#243

Post by Colin » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:53 pm

Finally got done,
A busy weekend - what fun!
Beach is overrun!
One world. One planet. One future.

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#244

Post by Bob cruise director » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:52 pm

Final call

We have our newest muggle - rosiegirl - always great to have more muggles

The final total is 5 on the ship and 180 on the shore with muggles getting to the shore all afternoon

Getting to the shore since lunch are:
ALS
copperriver
Eguinan
Jarrod
ReB
halseymac
Domenic
Paul D
Susan G
Grover
Tom Wilson
mitchel674
and Colin.

Long odds this week with about 2000 entries.
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#245

Post by matthewmoravec » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:58 pm

On shore!

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#246

Post by higgysue » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:51 pm

Tom Wilson wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:32 pm
Made it to shore, with relative moments to spare!

And speaking of relatives ... here's wishing all of you a blessed, safe and satisfying Thanksgiving with family and friends, whether around the table or across the country. Better days ahead! But in the meantime, please know how grateful I am for this forum and the clever souls who inhabit it.
I agree! Grateful for you all!

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#247

Post by diplomatt » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:55 pm

First time on shore in months!!

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#248

Post by escapeartist » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:58 pm

Nothing - Staring at the grid for four days like:

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#249

Post by bradisbrad » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:15 pm

After a brief hiatus from solving, always nice to come back and get on shore.

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#250

Post by whimsy » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:55 pm

BrianMac wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:10 pm
That took way too long, but I finally saw it.
Been itching to post this since Friday --- I guess it's safe enough now. :D
Wonder no more, BrianMac. These are MALLSISTAS:
Capturemallsistas.JPG

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#251

Post by Joe Ross » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:00 am

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#252

Post by FrankH » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:09 am

I was not taking the title literally enough, and so was looking at words situated at the top of the grid and comparing them against words at the bottom of the grid. After a day of trying different things fruitlessly, finally decided to look for AS and SO in the grid; but because the hints are situated at 7D and 48D, started looking for those letters in the DOWN direction. That led nowhere, and so eventually had to look for those letters in the horizontal direction. Bingo! Sure took a long, hard and circuitous route.

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#253

Post by escapeartist » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:17 am

I did notice that there was a lot of "ASS" in the grid - thought it tied to "bottom" somehow, but it didn't. :lol:

I was way off in every way I tried - I wouldn't have gotten this if I stared at it for another week.

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#254

Post by whimsy » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:26 am

My favorite rabbit hole too! ^^

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#255

Post by flyingMoose » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:29 am

When I first saw the title, I wondered if a key part of the mechanism was vertical rather than horizontal as in the common Theme Entries. While filling out the grid, I wondered if 7D and 48D would be important beyond the connection they had in the cluing.

Was I able to carry those thoughts around in my head? Of course not! Did I follow the suggestion of many and write down interesting things I saw along the way? Of course not! Sigh.

Later in the day, the light finally came on and I found the short, quick path to the solution.

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#256

Post by Eric Porter » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:37 am

Here's what I was hinting at in my earlier post about Easter eggs. Easter egg is not quite right, because they're not exactly hidden, but I was using the term to apply to something that one of us would notice and maybe get a kick out of it.

The first thing I saw was pASSOvers and lASSO. They have AS and SO right next to each other and are both down clues. It could be a coincidence, but with 2 of them, I think Matt did it on purpose. It's close to the solution, but not quite.

The other one is the answer itself. The title of the July 10 puzzle was "Missing Links". That was a Shenk puzzle, but it has a very similar solve method.

As Dplass reminded me, we have AT SEA for 15A.

As another Muggle pointed out to me, APES is in 10A, an homage to the Missing Links puzzle?

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#257

Post by Dplass » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:05 am

7D/49D Were an expression I never heard of and then seconds later my eyes saw AS and SO separated by a line in the grid and Bob's your parent's sibling.

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#258

Post by RichA2 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:14 am

After the past several weeks, it’s nice to have a meta solution for which the explanation fills less than five lines.

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#259

Post by Mister Squawk » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:21 am

Was I the only person who saw "PASSOVERS ENTRE" and started looking for Brisket?

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#260

Post by John77 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:40 am

I also noticed the similar mechanism appearing in the 7/10/20 puzzle (see Eric Porter's post above). Made me wonder whether there were three more steps to go through.
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. —H. L. Mencken

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