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Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:48 am
by Tripod
I got lucky in two ways.

First, I started by solving around 36A so I could know the theme and think about it while I solved. Once I saw that answer, the grid started to look like a compass to me and I was originally looking for 4 states - thinking one in each quadrant - to surround another state. Having just spent the summer in Maine, Palermo and Verona in the NE quadrant started me down one rabbit hole until...

Secondly, I had also just solved another puzzle in my local paper with KLUDGE in it. In that puzzle, my initial answer was KLUDGY (the way I always heard it), and I had to edit back then as that grid came into focus swapping the Y for an E. So I started with E here and when 6D came into focus and I updated back to KLUDGY. That, with the compass perspective, triggered KY in my head, and I knew there was already a VeronA over in the "northeast." The rest fell into place from there...

I was thinking "borders" was the nudge I would have shared, so I am glad to hear that's in line with the suggestions above. I also get the "tell me what you know" approach. I like that. Thank you.

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:41 pm
by MajordomoTom
probably my favorite to date of his puzzles - the elegance of the construction (and the black squares in the corners, which violate almost all the rules of crossword construction, but which were needed to have 8 sets of 6 letter words around the perimeter) ... fantastic.

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:12 pm
by Bob cruise director
Wendy Walker wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:38 pm Thank you, Brian Mac, for shrinking me so I could share! Note the authentic footwear.
Wendy
I trust that you will have that attire on for the Zoom call tonight!!!!

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:34 pm
by bskptkl
bskptkl wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:01 pm Ok - I submitted, but not super confident even though my answer makes sense.
I looked at the grid and saw a cross formed by 36A and 25D that was surrounded by the rest of the puzzle.
31A - Cross inscription clue said INRI - voila; Rhode Island (except bothered by the IN which could be Indiana).

Wrong!

I had previously marked up my grid with all the 2 letter state abbreviations and made a mess.

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:32 pm
by CopperRiver
Fell down the biggest rabbit hole to date with the USS military and ship references. My biggest frustration is that I flew across the country to NC from CA for four days to visit family and the entire time on the planes never once opened the inflight magazine which would have included a map of the states. It may or may not have helped however. That was a great puzzle. On to the next one...

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:35 pm
by Meg
Bob cruise director wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:12 pm
Wendy Walker wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:38 pm Thank you, Brian Mac, for shrinking me so I could share! Note the authentic footwear.
Wendy
I trust that you will have that attire on for the Zoom call tonight!!!!
I second that!! Show us!

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:44 pm
by yourpalsal
I can't make it again, but the zoom muggle meetup is on as always! https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89184367093
And BTW I was hanging with Issac. So frustrating, I knew to look for state abbreviations, but I didn't look in those farflung corners...

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:09 pm
by Bob cruise director
Meg wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:35 pm
Bob cruise director wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:12 pm
Wendy Walker wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:38 pm Thank you, Brian Mac, for shrinking me so I could share! Note the authentic footwear.
Wendy
I trust that you will have that attire on for the Zoom call tonight!!!!
I second that!! Show us!
And Meg will have her cabana boy serving drinks :lol:

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:17 pm
by Meg
yourpalsal wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:44 pm I can't make it again, but the zoom muggle meetup is on as always! https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89184367093
And BTW I was hanging with Issac. So frustrating, I knew to look for state abbreviations, but I didn't look in those farflung corners...
We will miss you!

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:41 pm
by Bob cruise director
Tripod wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:00 pm As a still new solver who was fortunate to get to shore early this week, can I ask what kind of nudges some of you more experienced solvers would use on this puzzle?

I was reluctant to stick my nose into that part of the game for fear of being wrong on one hand, or "too" helpful on the other.
Also - it is best to send a PM to request a nudge. In Come Aboard/FAQ-Community/Solving Resources, there are several thoughts on nudges.

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:08 pm
by SewYoung
Meg wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:17 pm
yourpalsal wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:44 pm I can't make it again, but the zoom muggle meetup is on as always! https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89184367093
And BTW I was hanging with Issac. So frustrating, I knew to look for state abbreviations, but I didn't look in those farflung corners...
We will miss you!
I was right there with you,Sal. Found many abbrevaitions; just not the right ones.
We missed you last week and had a new member that you need to meet. Will miss you again tonight and hope to see you next week.

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:32 pm
by TPS
No meeting tonight?

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:34 pm
by Bob cruise director
yourpalsal wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:44 pm I can't make it again, but the zoom muggle meetup is on as always! https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89184367093
And BTW I was hanging with Issac. So frustrating, I knew to look for state abbreviations, but I didn't look in those farflung corners...
Who is hosting the meeting?

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:34 pm
by SewYoung
TPS wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:32 pmNo meeting tonight?
It's not coming up for me, either. It says "Please wait for the host to start the meeting." I will keep waiting.

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:35 pm
by LaceyK
yes same here

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:35 pm
by Wendy Walker
I know that Sal's Accidental Talmudist broadcast was earlier in the day because of the debates ...

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:35 pm
by Bob cruise director
SewYoung wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:34 pm
TPS wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:32 pmNo meeting tonight?
It's not coming up for me, either. It says "Please wait for the host to start the meeting." I will keep waiting.
Practice for Thursday at 4:00 then 4:01......

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:37 pm
by Bob cruise director
Do you want me to set up a different meeting?

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:39 pm
by Bird Lives
SewYoung wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:34 pm
TPS wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:32 pmNo meeting tonight?
It's not coming up for me, either. It says "Please wait for the host to start the meeting." I will keep waiting.
I'm getting the same Please Wait message. I guess there's no way to have a meeting without a host. But we did it some other time when Sal was not there. How?

Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:39 pm
by ReB
Bob cruise director wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:37 pm Do you want me to set up a different meeting?
Sure, give it a try. Hopefully people will look here when they can't get the meeting to start.