"You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

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Re: "You're Surrounded" - September 25, 2020

#481

Post by Tripod » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:48 am

I got lucky in two ways.

First, I started by solving around 36A so I could know the theme and think about it while I solved. Once I saw that answer, the grid started to look like a compass to me and I was originally looking for 4 states - thinking one in each quadrant - to surround another state. Having just spent the summer in Maine, Palermo and Verona in the NE quadrant started me down one rabbit hole until...

Secondly, I had also just solved another puzzle in my local paper with KLUDGE in it. In that puzzle, my initial answer was KLUDGY (the way I always heard it), and I had to edit back then as that grid came into focus swapping the Y for an E. So I started with E here and when 6D came into focus and I updated back to KLUDGY. That, with the compass perspective, triggered KY in my head, and I knew there was already a VeronA over in the "northeast." The rest fell into place from there...

I was thinking "borders" was the nudge I would have shared, so I am glad to hear that's in line with the suggestions above. I also get the "tell me what you know" approach. I like that. Thank you.

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#482

Post by MajordomoTom » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:41 pm

probably my favorite to date of his puzzles - the elegance of the construction (and the black squares in the corners, which violate almost all the rules of crossword construction, but which were needed to have 8 sets of 6 letter words around the perimeter) ... fantastic.
"Lots of planets have a North", the Ninth Doctor.

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#483

Post by Bob cruise director » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:12 pm

Wendy Walker wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:38 pm
Thank you, Brian Mac, for shrinking me so I could share! Note the authentic footwear.
Wendy
I trust that you will have that attire on for the Zoom call tonight!!!!
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#484

Post by bskptkl » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:34 pm

bskptkl wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:01 pm
Ok - I submitted, but not super confident even though my answer makes sense.
I looked at the grid and saw a cross formed by 36A and 25D that was surrounded by the rest of the puzzle.
31A - Cross inscription clue said INRI - voila; Rhode Island (except bothered by the IN which could be Indiana).

Wrong!

I had previously marked up my grid with all the 2 letter state abbreviations and made a mess.

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Post by CopperRiver » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:32 pm

Fell down the biggest rabbit hole to date with the USS military and ship references. My biggest frustration is that I flew across the country to NC from CA for four days to visit family and the entire time on the planes never once opened the inflight magazine which would have included a map of the states. It may or may not have helped however. That was a great puzzle. On to the next one...

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#486

Post by Meg » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:35 pm

Bob cruise director wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:12 pm
Wendy Walker wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:38 pm
Thank you, Brian Mac, for shrinking me so I could share! Note the authentic footwear.
Wendy
I trust that you will have that attire on for the Zoom call tonight!!!!
I second that!! Show us!

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#487

Post by yourpalsal » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:44 pm

I can't make it again, but the zoom muggle meetup is on as always! https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89184367093
And BTW I was hanging with Issac. So frustrating, I knew to look for state abbreviations, but I didn't look in those farflung corners...

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#488

Post by Bob cruise director » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:09 pm

Meg wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:35 pm
Bob cruise director wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:12 pm
Wendy Walker wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:38 pm
Thank you, Brian Mac, for shrinking me so I could share! Note the authentic footwear.
Wendy
I trust that you will have that attire on for the Zoom call tonight!!!!
I second that!! Show us!
And Meg will have her cabana boy serving drinks :lol:
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Post by Meg » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:17 pm

yourpalsal wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:44 pm
I can't make it again, but the zoom muggle meetup is on as always! https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89184367093
And BTW I was hanging with Issac. So frustrating, I knew to look for state abbreviations, but I didn't look in those farflung corners...
We will miss you!

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#490

Post by Bob cruise director » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:41 pm

Tripod wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:00 pm
As a still new solver who was fortunate to get to shore early this week, can I ask what kind of nudges some of you more experienced solvers would use on this puzzle?

I was reluctant to stick my nose into that part of the game for fear of being wrong on one hand, or "too" helpful on the other.
Also - it is best to send a PM to request a nudge. In Come Aboard/FAQ-Community/Solving Resources, there are several thoughts on nudges.
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#491

Post by SewYoung » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:08 pm

Meg wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:17 pm
yourpalsal wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:44 pm
I can't make it again, but the zoom muggle meetup is on as always! https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89184367093
And BTW I was hanging with Issac. So frustrating, I knew to look for state abbreviations, but I didn't look in those farflung corners...
We will miss you!
I was right there with you,Sal. Found many abbrevaitions; just not the right ones.
We missed you last week and had a new member that you need to meet. Will miss you again tonight and hope to see you next week.

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#492

Post by TPS » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:32 pm

No meeting tonight?

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#493

Post by Bob cruise director » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:34 pm

yourpalsal wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:44 pm
I can't make it again, but the zoom muggle meetup is on as always! https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89184367093
And BTW I was hanging with Issac. So frustrating, I knew to look for state abbreviations, but I didn't look in those farflung corners...
Who is hosting the meeting?
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#494

Post by SewYoung » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:34 pm

TPS wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:32 pm
No meeting tonight?
It's not coming up for me, either. It says "Please wait for the host to start the meeting." I will keep waiting.

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#495

Post by LaceyK » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:35 pm

yes same here

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#496

Post by Wendy Walker » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:35 pm

I know that Sal's Accidental Talmudist broadcast was earlier in the day because of the debates ...
Good luck, fellow Muggles! I'm happy to give nudges, but only if you're still stuck on Sunday.

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#497

Post by Bob cruise director » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:35 pm

SewYoung wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:34 pm
TPS wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:32 pm
No meeting tonight?
It's not coming up for me, either. It says "Please wait for the host to start the meeting." I will keep waiting.
Practice for Thursday at 4:00 then 4:01......
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Post by Bob cruise director » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:37 pm

Do you want me to set up a different meeting?
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#499

Post by Bird Lives » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:39 pm

SewYoung wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:34 pm
TPS wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:32 pm
No meeting tonight?
It's not coming up for me, either. It says "Please wait for the host to start the meeting." I will keep waiting.
I'm getting the same Please Wait message. I guess there's no way to have a meeting without a host. But we did it some other time when Sal was not there. How?

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#500

Post by ReB » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:39 pm

Bob cruise director wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:37 pm
Do you want me to set up a different meeting?
Sure, give it a try. Hopefully people will look here when they can't get the meeting to start.

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