"Leftovers" - November 29, 2019
-
- Posts: 127
- Joined: Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:10 pm
- Location: San Diego
On shore, needed an extra look this morning to incorporate the final confirming step.
As for turkeys: SPATCHCOCK. Would make a great puzzle answer.
As for turkeys: SPATCHCOCK. Would make a great puzzle answer.
-
- Posts: 390
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:07 pm
- Location: South Williamsport, PA
On shore, my timelier arrival hampered by the multiple desserts attached - temporarily, I pray - to my waist. A fun meta, to be sure ... and a solid vote for "turkey-numbed somnolence" as the unofficial slogan of the holiday. Extended weekend wishes to all, with safe travels for anyone in the storm track.
-
- Posts: 56
- Joined: Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:12 pm
Oh dear. With Isaac again. I always struggle with this type (numbers in parentheses). Also working this one on my phone instead of paper, which probably isn’t helping.
- DrTom
- Posts: 3765
- Joined: Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:46 pm
- Location: Jacksonville, FL
Won't work how? I mean plenty of salt got into the meat, that was the problem. How does an unfrozen bird prevent that? I'm not challenging, I just really want to know if there is a physiological or culinary reason. I read that a frozen bird would not take up the brining solution as well though was still better off for the brining, but mine sucked up the solution like a sponge. Is the meat not always really salty after? Thinking about it logically after the fiasco I should have guessed it would be, but perhaps there is some mechanism in an unfrozen bird that limits the absorption or at purges it when cooking?MajordomoTom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:58 am if you are brining a turkey, you need a fresh, never-frozen bird. The frozen ones are never completely thawed and it won't work.
I think I am going to just go with the bird's natural juices (and a healthy dollop of butter) for next year.
NUDGES!I am always willing to give nudges where needed; metas should be about fun, not frustration. Send me what you have done so far because often you are closer than you think!
- MajordomoTom
- Posts: 1401
- Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:09 am
- Location: St. Louis, MO
I lack first hand knowledge and was only repeating something I heard earlier this week, so perhaps I should have pushed for a deeper explanation.
These past few years, we've done the lazy thing and purchased a never frozen already smoked turkey. The leftovers are ... fantastic.
EDIT: did a bit of "research" online, many frozen birds are already brined, so that might be part of the issue. See #3 on this list https://www.buzzfeed.com/christinebyrne ... yone-makes
These past few years, we've done the lazy thing and purchased a never frozen already smoked turkey. The leftovers are ... fantastic.
EDIT: did a bit of "research" online, many frozen birds are already brined, so that might be part of the issue. See #3 on this list https://www.buzzfeed.com/christinebyrne ... yone-makes
"Lots of planets have a North", the Ninth Doctor.
- Bob cruise director
- Cruise Director
- Posts: 4512
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:38 pm
- Location: Any golf course within 500 miles of Littleton MA
Good morning Muggles. I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving and safe drive home.
And I want to thank all my muggle friends from the Midwest who are sending us about 12 inches of snow starting Sunday afternoon and going into Tuesday am.
And I want to thank all the Cowboys fans for sending their illness to the Patriots. There are 17 Patriots listed as questionable for the game tomorrow with whatever illness was brought from Dallas
On a positive note, our newest muggle, SeanS, is sitting on the warm sunny shore with his new friends
So far we have 3 on the ship and 70 on the shore and a bunch of us just getting to the contest.
On the ship are Meg, SewYoung and Beth C
Basking on the shore are
Al
damefox
Mike H
Wendy
David K
Les
Chris
Toby
streroto
Beth T
BarbaraK
Jazzvibist
cindy
Frank H
Call Me Shane
Frankie
Mark L
joequavis
DB Miller
Julie O
Jim and Anita
Laura
Eric P
Tony S
Steve B
Bird Lives
Patty
kay
ALS
Janet P
MajorDomoTom
oldjudge
horsesense
eric h
SeanS
Deb F
jeanrosz
ky-mike
Hector
Cynthia J
Beth A
Juliet
Peter L
ImOnToo
Jennifer
WBYonder
Inca
troysail
Heidi
Tina
scooby
Brian
sharkicicles
Ed S
Brian M
Joedbee
Patrick
Susan G
Richard
Doug M
billkatz
RDaleHall
David Wa
leslie
tim1217
DrTom
Glyn
Diane
elan
and Jacksull
Now to get to the contest before the snow flies
Good luck to all winning the mug
And I want to thank all my muggle friends from the Midwest who are sending us about 12 inches of snow starting Sunday afternoon and going into Tuesday am.
And I want to thank all the Cowboys fans for sending their illness to the Patriots. There are 17 Patriots listed as questionable for the game tomorrow with whatever illness was brought from Dallas
On a positive note, our newest muggle, SeanS, is sitting on the warm sunny shore with his new friends
So far we have 3 on the ship and 70 on the shore and a bunch of us just getting to the contest.
On the ship are Meg, SewYoung and Beth C
Basking on the shore are
Al
damefox
Mike H
Wendy
David K
Les
Chris
Toby
streroto
Beth T
BarbaraK
Jazzvibist
cindy
Frank H
Call Me Shane
Frankie
Mark L
joequavis
DB Miller
Julie O
Jim and Anita
Laura
Eric P
Tony S
Steve B
Bird Lives
Patty
kay
ALS
Janet P
MajorDomoTom
oldjudge
horsesense
eric h
SeanS
Deb F
jeanrosz
ky-mike
Hector
Cynthia J
Beth A
Juliet
Peter L
ImOnToo
Jennifer
WBYonder
Inca
troysail
Heidi
Tina
scooby
Brian
sharkicicles
Ed S
Brian M
Joedbee
Patrick
Susan G
Richard
Doug M
billkatz
RDaleHall
David Wa
leslie
tim1217
DrTom
Glyn
Diane
elan
and Jacksull
Now to get to the contest before the snow flies
Good luck to all winning the mug
Bob Stevens
Cruise Director
Cruise Director
-
- Posts: 168
- Joined: Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:32 pm
I finally found the right rabbit hole! Safely ashore, but I was with Isaac so long I almost slid off the bar stool! Good luck Muggles.
- DrTom
- Posts: 3765
- Joined: Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:46 pm
- Location: Jacksonville, FL
Well, that makes a lot of sense. I did not check to see if it was pre-brined - and I made at least 10 of the 17 other mistakes. I'm keeping that article until next year. Of course I may just keep it to show to the person from whom I buy a never frozen already smoked turkey! Please tell me you live near Jacksonville and have the name of someone close by I can buy it from!!!MajordomoTom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:55 pm I lack first hand knowledge and was only repeating something I heard earlier this week, so perhaps I should have pushed for a deeper explanation.
These past few years, we've done the lazy thing and purchased a never frozen already smoked turkey. The leftovers are ... fantastic.
EDIT: did a bit of "research" online, many frozen birds are already brined, so that might be part of the issue. See #3 on this list https://www.buzzfeed.com/christinebyrne ... yone-makes
NUDGES!I am always willing to give nudges where needed; metas should be about fun, not frustration. Send me what you have done so far because often you are closer than you think!
- MajordomoTom
- Posts: 1401
- Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:09 am
- Location: St. Louis, MO
everything's relative ... Jacksonville, IL, yes, I live in St. Louis, MO, but I see you mean a different Jacksonville.
"Lots of planets have a North", the Ninth Doctor.
- Bob cruise director
- Cruise Director
- Posts: 4512
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:38 pm
- Location: Any golf course within 500 miles of Littleton MA
I finally got some time to work on this and after a few wrong rabbit holes, the answer got squeezed out and I am on the shore. Unfortunately my shore is going to get a bunch of snow so I am dressed for it.
Bob Stevens
Cruise Director
Cruise Director
-
- Posts: 173
- Joined: Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:26 pm
- Location: M87*
- ImOnToo
- Posts: 442
- Joined: Thu May 02, 2019 5:28 pm
- Location: Texas
Bob - Although I hope that my status changes soon, I am still on the boat.
I DO appreciate your confidence in me, however!
I DO appreciate your confidence in me, however!
Konnie
-
- Posts: 726
- Joined: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:25 pm
- Location: Meridian, MS
Glad to know that I have a couple of other friends still on the ship with me. I had circled some things in my finished grid, so on the theory that I can't see past that to the solution, I have printed a fresh copy. I will fill it in later tonight and hope the solution jumps out at me.
- Colin
- Posts: 546
- Joined: Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:57 pm
Another double Wild Turkey straight up please Isaac.
One world. One planet. One future.
- hcbirker
- Posts: 1985
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:24 pm
- Location: Studio City, CA
I put softened butter mixed with sage under the skin, stuff it with cornbread dressing, and put it on my Weber grill. An hour before pulling it off the grill (indirect heat) I baste it with melted butter and sage. Done in 2 1/2 hours. Made it this way for years, comes out great and I've never poisoned anyone!DrTom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:49 pmWon't work how? I mean plenty of salt got into the meat, that was the problem. How does an unfrozen bird prevent that? I'm not challenging, I just really want to know if there is a physiological or culinary reason. I read that a frozen bird would not take up the brining solution as well though was still better off for the brining, but mine sucked up the solution like a sponge. Is the meat not always really salty after? Thinking about it logically after the fiasco I should have guessed it would be, but perhaps there is some mechanism in an unfrozen bird that limits the absorption or at purges it when cooking?MajordomoTom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:58 am if you are brining a turkey, you need a fresh, never-frozen bird. The frozen ones are never completely thawed and it won't work.
I think I am going to just go with the bird's natural juices (and a healthy dollop of butter) for next year.
Heidi
- ImOnToo
- Posts: 442
- Joined: Thu May 02, 2019 5:28 pm
- Location: Texas
Yo, Ishaak...Ol’ buddy, ol’ pal... slide me another Makers and soda.
Loosh like imma be here for a while. *hic*
Loosh like imma be here for a while. *hic*
Konnie
- Al Sisti
- Posts: 2039
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:28 pm
- Location: Whitesboro NY
(referring to your signature block) Missing George on the 18th anniversary (yesterday) of his passing . We played "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" in his honor last night...
- tim1217
- Posts: 299
- Joined: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:58 pm
- Location: Small Town America
Get a turkey fryer and 3 gallons of peanut oil. If you've cringed at the thought of deep-fried turkey, I can tell you I did the same thing 20 years ago when I first heard about it. But once I 'went there', I've never looked back. There's no breading, so it's not greasy like fried chicken. When the bird hits that 350 degree oil, it immediately sears and seals the skin. Total cooking time is 3 1/2 minutes per pound, so 42 minutes for a 12 lb bird. Perfectly juicy on the inside (even all of the white meat) and thin crispy skin on the outside. There's also no seasoning (although some inject a spice mix inside before cooking, but I like to cook it plain).hcbirker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:33 pmI put softened butter mixed with sage under the skin, stuff it with cornbread dressing, and put it on my Weber grill. An hour before pulling it off the grill (indirect heat) I baste it with melted butter and sage. Done in 2 1/2 hours. Made it this way for years, comes out great and I've never poisoned anyone!DrTom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:49 pmWon't work how? I mean plenty of salt got into the meat, that was the problem. How does an unfrozen bird prevent that? I'm not challenging, I just really want to know if there is a physiological or culinary reason. I read that a frozen bird would not take up the brining solution as well though was still better off for the brining, but mine sucked up the solution like a sponge. Is the meat not always really salty after? Thinking about it logically after the fiasco I should have guessed it would be, but perhaps there is some mechanism in an unfrozen bird that limits the absorption or at purges it when cooking?MajordomoTom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:58 am if you are brining a turkey, you need a fresh, never-frozen bird. The frozen ones are never completely thawed and it won't work.
I think I am going to just go with the bird's natural juices (and a healthy dollop of butter) for next year.
- Bird Lives
- Posts: 2607
- Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:43 pm
- Location: NYC
- Contact:
I kept thinking of that word while I was doing tomorrow's Sunday NYT Magazine Spelling Bee.
Jay