Or maybe right answer but wrong/incomplete reason. Think positive!
"Lean Meat" - June 14, 2019
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This week's meta was quick and easy. Too quick and easy based on some comments. It's confirmed by two simple, straightforward aspects of the puzzle. It was easier than last week's.
Did I land on a distant shore?
Did I land on a distant shore?
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PLATELET ๐ฑ๐ผ๐ป๐ผ๐ฟ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ฟ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ.
๐ง๐ต๐ฒ ๐ป๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐ถ๐ ENORMOUS ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ:
๐ฐ๐ฌ% ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ฑ๐ถ๐ฎ๐๐ฟ๐ถ๐ฐ,
๐ฏ๐ฌ% ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต, ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ฎ๐ฐ๐๐ถ๐ฐ,
๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ฟ & ๐๐ฟ๐ฎ๐๐บ๐ฎ. ๐ฃ๐๐๐๐ฆ๐ ๐ฆ๐๐๐ฅ๐!
PLATELET ๐ฑ๐ผ๐ป๐ผ๐ฟ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ฟ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ.
๐ง๐ต๐ฒ ๐ป๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐ถ๐ ENORMOUS ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ:
๐ฐ๐ฌ% ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ฑ๐ถ๐ฎ๐๐ฟ๐ถ๐ฐ,
๐ฏ๐ฌ% ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต, ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ฎ๐ฐ๐๐ถ๐ฐ,
๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ฟ & ๐๐ฟ๐ฎ๐๐บ๐ฎ. ๐ฃ๐๐๐๐ฆ๐ ๐ฆ๐๐๐ฅ๐!
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Look at it this way, how many different verbs can there possibly be that are used in cooking meat. My cooking specialist (wife) listed only nine. Pretty good odds
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Our final count is 7 on the ship and 86 on the shore. a3jay, Kris, Susan G and Tom S just made it.
Good luck to all in winning the coveted WSJ mug
See you next week for a MG special
Good luck to all in winning the coveted WSJ mug
See you next week for a MG special
Bob Stevens
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Marion and I just made it.......busy weekend and off/on looking at it. Came tougher but the AHA moment did come.
Luck to all........
Luck to all........
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Submitted an answer, but Iโm pretty sure Iโm still out to sea.
Donโt bother me until Iโve had my coffee and done the crossword.
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I came up with a dozen offhand plus several others that refer to preparation rather than actual cooking cooking (e.g., marinate), not to mention ones like "undersalt" or "overcook to the point of it being inedible." (Maybe I should have used a spoiler alert for that one.)Bob cruise director wrote: โSun Jun 16, 2019 9:04 pmLook at it this way, how many different verbs can there possibly be that are used in cooking meat. My cooking specialist (wife) listed only nine. Pretty good odds
Jay
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SOO mad at myself. I found the four meats on the LEAN and wondered and wondered how I could tease out letters. Never thought to see where they crossed the terms that described them. Tried to make some term out of the shape of the outlined words (T =) but still nothing. Then of course IMMEDIATELY after the contest was officially over I saw the light. What even makes me madder is that I was going to guess SEAR because with four clues I knew it had to be a four letter word and that is a common cooking term I use and see.
Oh, well, half a sixpence is better than half a farthing....
Oh, well, half a sixpence is better than half a farthing....
NUDGES!I am always willing to give nudges where needed; metas should be about fun, not frustration. Send me what you have done so far because often you are closer than you think!
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Now that the answer is out, I can post the rabbit hole I got stuck in for way too long before I saw the light. I think most of use found the four meat yielding animals (Deer, Pig, Cow and Calf). Many of us took the next step of moving to the type of meat from each (Venison, Pork, Beef and Veal). Then I noticed the 44D answer Argus. That is one letter off Angus, a type of beef. Then I noticed the 37A answer Elf. That is one letter off Elk, a type of venison. Finally, I noticed the 10A answer Cob. This is one letter off a type of veal (Bob). With three of the four done this way I spent way too long looking for a type of pork hiding in a similar fashion. It took a lot for me to see beyond this. I had initially thought that โleanโ might pertain to an angled word, but that Argus answer got me all in on that path to the solution, which thankfully I finally gave up on when I saw โporkโ reading down on a diagonal.
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FWIW, Bob Veale was a pitcher for the Pirates mostly in the 60s, lifetime ERA 3.07.
Jay
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You can also get SEAR if instead of using the letters where the food crosses the animal, you just use the third letter of the food reading down the diagonal.
n o S i n e v
v e A l
b e E f
p o R k
Thereโs also a STEW rabbit hole (hassenpfeffer?). If you continue the diagonal foods one more letter, you get, in order, S E W. The T is missing because BEEF ends at the edge of the grid. Where is the T? If you circle or highlight the diagonal food names, you see that NOSINEV and VEAL form the missing T.
I knew that this couldnโt be the correct method. But it also occurred to me that a puzzle constructor might incorporate this gimmick โ the outline of keywords in the grid to form letters or shapes that yield the meta. Or has it already been used?
n o S i n e v
v e A l
b e E f
p o R k
Thereโs also a STEW rabbit hole (hassenpfeffer?). If you continue the diagonal foods one more letter, you get, in order, S E W. The T is missing because BEEF ends at the edge of the grid. Where is the T? If you circle or highlight the diagonal food names, you see that NOSINEV and VEAL form the missing T.
I knew that this couldnโt be the correct method. But it also occurred to me that a puzzle constructor might incorporate this gimmick โ the outline of keywords in the grid to form letters or shapes that yield the meta. Or has it already been used?
Jay
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Last week I thought (wrongly) that my goose was cooked when I saw we were doing Shakespeare. This week I jumped whole hog into the โleaningโ meaning of the title. Just as I was asking โwhereโs the beef?โ- there it was on the diagonal crossing the cow path. Then it wasnโt long before I was leaving Isaac and the surf for the turf on the beach. Very very clever. And I was glad not to have to get myself into a stew over this one.
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Before getting to shore, I noticed MAVEN and SAVES, which have a similar pattern to LEAN MEAT (different first and last letters with the same middle). Spent waaaay to long pursuing that. Then went back to SVEN and BEE and could not find other words that were portions of PORK and VEAL. That's when I noticed the leaning BEEF and the rest fell into place.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
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Bird, I was briefly in the STEW rabbit hole, too.Bird Lives wrote: โMon Jun 17, 2019 7:07 am You can also get SEAR if instead of using the letters where the food crosses the animal, you just use the third letter of the food reading down the diagonal.
n o S i n e v
v e A l
b e E f
p o R k
Thereโs also a STEW rabbit hole (hassenpfeffer?). If you continue the diagonal foods one more letter, you get, in order, S E W. The T is missing because BEEF ends at the edge of the grid. Where is the T? If you circle or highlight the diagonal food names, you see that NOSINEV and VEAL form the missing T.
I knew that this couldnโt be the correct method. But it also occurred to me that a puzzle constructor might incorporate this gimmick โ the outline of keywords in the grid to form letters or shapes that yield the meta. Or has it already been used?
Good luck, fellow Muggles!
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Stuck on the grille shape of the diagonals (ala Bird). Sent in "turn", since the secondary clues were turned. Kinda knew it would be wrong, and I was right (about being wrong)!
I'll blame missing the crossing letters on my poor penmanship. For that, I'll blame the nuns that rapped my knuckles too much.
I'll blame missing the crossing letters on my poor penmanship. For that, I'll blame the nuns that rapped my knuckles too much.
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In our house we call that BURN which goes better with the idea that there were 4 obvious clue words.Bird Lives wrote: โSun Jun 16, 2019 11:37 pm
.... "overcook to the point of it being inedible." (Maybe I should have used a spoiler alert for that one.)
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I happened to notice that Mike posted this under the Monday WSJ puzzle. I didn't see it on here so thought I would repost it:
Good morning. We are on the road today and will post results tomorrow. (Sneak preview, 1099 responses!)
Good morning. We are on the road today and will post results tomorrow. (Sneak preview, 1099 responses!)
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In the 7-23-18 puzzle, a Z was formed, and in the 7-2-18 puzzle, an arrow was formed that pointed to the answer. I think I remember a Christmas tree being formed one time.......Bird Lives wrote: โMon Jun 17, 2019 7:07 am You can also get SEAR if instead of using the letters where the food crosses the animal, you just use the third letter of the food reading down the diagonal.
n o S i n e v
v e A l
b e E f
p o R k
Thereโs also a STEW rabbit hole (hassenpfeffer?). If you continue the diagonal foods one more letter, you get, in order, S E W. The T is missing because BEEF ends at the edge of the grid. Where is the T? If you circle or highlight the diagonal food names, you see that NOSINEV and VEAL form the missing T.
I knew that this couldnโt be the correct method. But it also occurred to me that a puzzle constructor might incorporate this gimmick โ the outline of keywords in the grid to form letters or shapes that yield the meta. Or has it already been used?
Cynthia