"Grid Daring" - February 14, 2020

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Re: "Grid Daring" - February 14, 2020

#101

Post by Lucas S » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:41 pm

Made it to shore this morning after the coffee kicked in. Have a great weekend, everyone!

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#102

Post by Laura M » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:48 pm

Having a busy work week, but I am on shore! This one was a lot of fun, but I feel like there was sort of a loose end...

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#103

Post by Trey » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:01 pm

Marion and I are on shore.......feels good - we did it independently for a change and arrived at the same place! Luck to all...........

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#104

Post by sharkicicles » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:11 pm

Seeing the obvious mechanism going on here, but have hit a wall for the time being...

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#105

Post by Bob cruise director » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:53 pm

Homer Buckle wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:07 pm
I am ashore - great puzzle to enjoy on a morning that started out at 14 below zero.
That leaves Florida out. Northern New England or the upper Midwest?
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#106

Post by SewYoung » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:13 pm

Still on the ship. I see something, but don't yet know what to do with it. Hope to be on shore before the deadline.

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#107

Post by ChrisKochmanski » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:32 pm

Wow, it has been fun reading of the Valentine's Day feasts! I hope no one thinks we're fancy schmancy types. That's the first big night out we've had in quite a while, and, after just reviewing the budget, it will be quite a while more before we have another big night out. Plus, a Christmas gift certificate paid for half. Of course, there are times when we think it would be fun if we COULD be fancy schmancy types!

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#108

Post by joequavis » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:26 pm

Late start this week due to travel. Ashore, though sidetracked for a bit.
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#109

Post by sharkicicles » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:28 pm

ChrisKochmanski wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:32 pm
Wow, it has been fun reading of the Valentine's Day feasts! I hope no one thinks we're fancy schmancy types. That's the first big night out we've had in quite a while, and, after just reviewing the budget, it will be quite a while more before we have another big night out. Plus, a Christmas gift certificate paid for half. Of course, there are times when we think it would be fun if we COULD be fancy schmancy types!
I hear ya... we live in a part of Chicago with some amazing restaurants and every once in a while we’ll go big. As they say, treat yourself once in a while!

As for us, tonight we’re gonna grab a bite at a local bar, but I’ll be cooking a big Valentines dinner tomorrow.

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Post by hcbirker » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:29 pm

ChrisKochmanski wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:32 pm
Wow, it has been fun reading of the Valentine's Day feasts! I hope no one thinks we're fancy schmancy types. That's the first big night out we've had in quite a while, and, after just reviewing the budget, it will be quite a while more before we have another big night out. Plus, a Christmas gift certificate paid for half. Of course, there are times when we think it would be fun if we COULD be fancy schmancy types!
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#111

Post by Bird Lives » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:43 pm

Usually, either I have the "Aha" moment and can solve the meta, or I don't and I can't. This week, I've got the "A," so I'm pretty sure what the answer is, but still no "ha" to clinch it. (MGWCC today went much more quickly.)

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#112

Post by LaceyK » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:57 pm

Ashore. Happy Valentine's Day. 17A was the first clue I solved and I thought lots of hearts and chocolate would follow! Alas that's for all the yummy dinners. Time for Sparkling Rosé!

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#113

Post by Jacksull » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:04 pm

On the beach. Or a beach.
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#114

Post by diplomatt » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:44 pm

I went pretty far down an impressively lengthy dead-end rabbithole, but I self-corrected, and I am ashore!

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#115

Post by CPJohnson » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:53 pm

I’m with Jacksull.....on a beach somewhere. Count me ashore, Bob. Cynthia J

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#116

Post by jenirvin » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:59 pm

Easily ashore. Fun, quick puzzle.
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#117

Post by jenirvin » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:03 pm

Oh, and a happy Valentine's Day to all. Nothing fancy schmancy here. We went to the Fredericksburg Battlefield Park and the Battlefield Country Store, after, for great deli sandwiches and milkshakes. :)
~ Jennifer/jenirvin

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#118

Post by Beth C » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:07 pm

Ashore with my spf30, ready for the weekend. Very clever construction. Good luck Muggles.

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#119

Post by BarbaraK » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:26 pm

yourpalsal wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:53 am
I'm curious how many folks on this chat have won the mug, and how many years of playing it took?
I won a mug with my 31st correct submission.

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#120

Post by BarbaraK » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:48 pm

Jazzvibist wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:05 am

Mathematicians: Out of curiosity, roughly what are the odds that (a) someone could have a 100% correct submission record from the inception of this contest and never have won a mug compared to (b) the odds that someone could submit only two correctly solved metas and win a mug each time?

And again, out of curiosity, because the WSJ mug is such a coveted trophy, what do Muggles think about a possible alternate path that rewards ability rather than rewarding pure luck? For example, assuming that WSJ keeps submission records by submitter (big presumption), what about the idea of allowing anyone with 100 or more documented correct submissions to be able to buy one?
Ooh, numbers! You want to talk about numbers?! OK, if you insist:)

I have the number of correct answers each week since April 29, 2016. (WSJ changed the comment system that week, and all previous comments were lost, so when I started tracking it, I couldn't go back farther than that.) If you got every answer correct for those 198 weeks, you had a 31.5% chance of winning a mug.

The average number of correct answers is 817, but that has been increasing over time - 635 in 2016 to 1033 last year.

There were 30 contests before my spreadsheet starts, so if you want to account for them, you'd have to make some guess at the numbers and settle for an approximation. Taking that 2016 average for each of the missing 30 weeks, your odds go up to 34.7%

I'm pretty sure WSJ does not keep any data from previous weeks.

Some other contests do though - MGWCC and MMMM for two. MGWCC gives prizes based on yearly success rates, and MMMM has a yearly prize that is random but weighted by the number and difficulty of puzzles solved.

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